General Chat

I'm not overweight - I'm just (very) under tall !!!

I have to scrutinise food labels because my husband is diabetic which is bad enough and he is considered obese so that is a constant battle.
Also I am on steroids and other meds I have been told I am obese too and that I won't be able to lose enough weight to be "normal" :-(

Channel 4 + 1 (121) 'Secret Eaters' on now......

only just turned over to this but its interesting!!

ude

Even the 'lean' looking people can have internal fat around their vital organs from which many health problems start ... :-(

I remember a client of my husbands was refused insurance as she was very overweight. Someone had to tell her this! Eventually an employee who was also a friend of the client explained that she had been refused cover as she wasn't tall enough for her weight.

Insurance companies use height/weight/male/female/age comparison tables in assessing policy premiums.

The chart shows minimum/average/maximum figures.

Who actually defines who/ what is "normal" ?

Contrary to what Errol has reported ...................


there is now a report here that weighing more than the "average" is not necessarily bad.

It seems that every one has an ideal weight .................. and that might not be a size 6, it might be a size 12

It has been suggested that doctors here should pay more attention as to whether the patient is otherwise healthy before telling them that their BMI is too high.

This is not ignoring the fact of obesity, or the problems associated with obesity, but accepting the fact that some of us will never be a size 10 or size 12 ....................

but it is accepting of the fact that eating disorders are far too prevalent, believed to be largely due to the pressure to be "thin"



I would also point out that clothes over here are more likely to be made bigger only so that one has to buy a couple of sizes SMALLER than one really needs :-)


We discovered that when daughter tried on wedding dresses 15 years ago .................. she had to order a size that was 2 sizes below what she normally wore!


It apparently makes a bride feel better when she can say "my wedding dress is a size 8", than if she has to say "........... a size 12", which would be her real size.


I know that the size I take depends on the manufacturer ...................... I actually have 4 different sizes in my closet at the moment, and all fit the same! Some manufacturers are more generous in their cut, others are not at all generous!

I need new clothes! I have a wardrobe full of things I can't wear. :-(

I heard there was a sale at Ray's Camping Centre....... I'm off to buy a tent.

:-(

Fat free is not the same as free fat.

I've no idea why I bother stating the obvious. It's just something I read recently about Queen Victoria who was openly mocked as the 'Famine Queen', in her propaganda-driven visit to Ireland of 1849.

Over-weight v. overweight, I suppose.

Good luck with getting more mobile, I hope someone can help you Scozz.

My bugbear is that anyone taller, shorter or thinner than someone somewhere decrees is healthy or normal never has to justify themselves to anyone.............but be heavier, and it's always deemed to be their own fault for eating too much of the wrong type of food!!

I am trying to get better before I can do ANY exercise.

I've been seeing a physiotherapist every week for the last 5 weeks, I've had two cortisone injections (which haven't helped)..... and I'm going to see an acupuncturist next week.

We have a healthy diet 95% of the time.......... not too many "treats" like chocolate or ice-cream. I read the labels on most products to see the fat & sugar content.

I wonder how much Dame Sally Davies was paid to write this report.

A person is a person, we come in all shapes and sizes, yet it is always the ones considered by some expert, researcher or whoever, to be overweight who get flack.

If anyone is unhappy with their weight they will know where to go for help and advice. How many more reports or articles stating the obvious do we need to see.

And to quote Errol
"I think the main point being made though was that too many people do not consider themselves to be overweight. They have to admit that to start with, before looking at what they are actually eating and this is where the comments by Dame Sally Davies apply about people considering being overweight or obese to be the norm when it clearly is not and should not be."

How rude and patronising is that??


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I have heard of that before and I am sure that there are occasions when it is down to genetics just like it can sometimes be down to a medical condition or treatment.

I watched a programme last night that said there is an 'obese' gene.......

As I don't really know what I am talking about perhaps a look at this link will explain why it is not always the fault of the person for putting on weight.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/music/news/elvis-death-his-genetic-destiny-30124197.html

oh well...

...there goes my lard, Bacardi, peanut butter and dark chocolate surprise cake with a Baileys topping then.

There are quite a few lists online of foods that contain the largest numbers of calories. Apart from pure lard or pure vegetable oil, it seems peanut butter and dark chocolate rank highly on most lists.
On the drinks front I found an article in the Mail that claims that Baileys and Bacardi breezers are the worst liquid sources of calories; whilst another websites list of high calorie drinks looked like an advert for Starbucks.

I quite agree Roy.

The overriding factor in many cases of people being overweight is over eating through ignorance - that may be over eating generally or far too much intake of a particular substance such as sugar.

I think the main point being made though was that too many people do not consider themselves to be overweight. They have to admit that to start with, before looking at what they are actually eating and this is where the comments by Dame Sally Davies apply about people considering being overweight or obese to be the norm when it clearly is not and should not be.

Roy....quite agree with you re the drinks, its the same with diet drinks, people just don't realise and of course there is a sugar replacement in all these drinks which is as bad or worse. The manufactorers are very clever at making some products look/sound like the best thing since sliced bread...and thats not the same as it used to be either:( (sliced bread).

D i l still does'nt give the kids a proper juice drink, its well diluted.

AnnC...yes again quite agree, Errol did mention this in the OP l think.

jude

Edit..added this bit from the OP

If this is the case then surely it should also apply to those who are overweight if it is self-induced rather than a medical conditiion in its own right or caused by another condition and/or treatment.

not all obesity is caused by overeating - there are other factors to consider

perhaps we should return to wartime diets - no obesity then