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Uggers

Uggers Report 18 Jun 2009 17:24

All you pedants make me want to use worse grammar than I do already:)

Nothing wrong with gotten. Stop moaning:)))

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 18 Jun 2009 17:25

Misbegotten illiterate. ;)

Uggers

Uggers Report 18 Jun 2009 17:26

I never is.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 18 Jun 2009 17:31

Well yes, but you're an Aquarius, and you would say that!

Uggers

Uggers Report 18 Jun 2009 17:33

:))

Dermot

Dermot Report 18 Jun 2009 17:42

"Censorship of a language is an excuse to prevent a 'perceived' hurt."

Anybody able to explain this statement?

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Jun 2009 17:44

lol Janey and Uggers...so while I am giving this matter the intense concentration it deserves ;) what about the phrase ( am I imagining this?! ) " Given the get go" ...I am sure I have heard that ( probably from my mum lol)

xx

( btw I knew Uggers was Aquarian :) but what are you Janey? )

Eileen

Eileen Report 18 Jun 2009 17:56


In Winchester there is a very old building called 'God Begot House' it means 'Goods be Gotten Here'. i.e. it was a form of market or shop. Gotten would appear to mean 'obtain' not to mean 'have'.
Gotten is the Middle English word that was taken to America by the early settlers. They have kept it in the language whereas we have let it drop. Therefore the word is more authentically English, and perhaps we should have kept it.
Sorry for the pedanticity -probably no such word - but my husband is a retired English teacher, he reads Anglo Saxon, and is very good on the origin of words.

Uggers

Uggers Report 18 Jun 2009 17:58

Ha!! Eileen had bested you all. Well done, Eileen:))

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 18 Jun 2009 18:31

Eileen -- exactly as I suspected!

Another interesting feature retained in some parts of the US is the distinction between words like

cot & caught

I pronounce them exactly alike, in Canadian English, but a true New Yawker would pronounce them very differently -- "cot" at the front of the mouth, and "caught" farther back.

"Gotten would appear to mean 'obtain' not to mean 'have'." -- is the distinction mentioned earlier in the thread, wasn't it?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 18 Jun 2009 18:33

Rose, how soon we forget. ;)

A Virgo, of course!

Oh - and today is No.1's birthday. A pointless Gemini. At least he's as old as I am now.


I never did figure it out -- I guessed you as a Sagittarius. How far off was I??

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 18 Jun 2009 18:36

Dermot: "Censorship of a language is an excuse to prevent a 'perceived' hurt."

My guess is that someone is whining about inclusive language, and someone is trying to drag "PC" into this discussion ...

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Jun 2009 18:52

Janey... Sagittarian? me?


LOL of course I am!

xx

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 18 Jun 2009 19:03

A pedant?.....me?....never!. and stop trying ter spoil me moan Uggers

Well done Eileen, I knew someone would :-)))

I still say they can keep it :-)

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 19 Jun 2009 12:43

Very nice Aunty wotsit, but what has star signs got to do with the thread heading?. Perhaps another thread of your own with the heading STAR SIGNS would be more appropriate.

Susan10146857

Susan10146857 Report 19 Jun 2009 13:10

yes I see your point, but their comments were oh so small compared with volumes on the subject with the threat of maybe more :-)

*Watch out Virgo, you're next!!*

Lynda

Lynda Report 19 Jun 2009 13:32

I am with you drives me mad (is it my age ?)

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 19 Jun 2009 16:39

Hee hee. You see, *my* sign is relevant -- Virgo is the sign of nitpicking pedants. ;)