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LadyKira

LadyKira Report 23 May 2009 00:02

Henry is with brother Charles in 1901

1901 Address: 95, Canonbury Road, Islington
HARTLAND, Charles J H Head Married M 36 1865 Type Founders Warehouseman
Clerkenwell VIEW
HARTLAND, Caroline A Wife Married F 33 1868
Hoxton VIEW
HARTLAND, Charles Son M 5 1896
Hoxton VIEW
HARTLAND, Albert Son M 3 1898
Hoxton VIEW
HARTLAND, Alice Daughter F 2 1899
I S Hoxton VIEW
HARTLAND, Clara Daughter F 0 (6 MOS) 1901
Islington VIEW
HARTLAND, Henry W Brother Single M 23 1878 Printers Foundry Man
Hackney VIEW
DESSMOND, Cornelius Boarder Single M 22 1879 Printers Porter
Whitechapel VIEW
WARD, John E Boarder Single M 24 1877 Barman
Camden Town

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 May 2009 23:55

Births Sep 1877 (>99%)
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HARTLAND Henry William Bethnal Green 1c 172


Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)
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Cosins Catherine E Hartland Holborn 1b 1502
Hartland Henry W Cosins Holborn 1b 1502



LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 May 2009 23:51

no this one is also in 1881
Address: 86, Nicholas St, Shoreditch
HARLAND, James Head Married M 39 1842 Glass Bottle Manufacturer
?
HARLAND, Eliza Wife Married F 37 1844
London
Middlesex
HARLAND, James Son Single M 12 1869
London
Middlesex
HARLAND, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 10 1871
London
Middlesex
HARLAND, William J Son Single M 8 1873
Hoxton
Middlesex
HARLAND, Frederick Son Single M 5 1876
Hoxton
Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 May 2009 23:48

In that case there is not a possible death between 1881 and 1901.

I wonder if this is him?

1901 Address: 19, Queensbury Street, Islington
HARLAND, James Head Married M 32 1869 Glass Bottle Blower
Shoreditch
London VIEW
HARLAND, Mary A S Wife Married F 30 1871
Shoreditch
London VIEW
HARLAND, Mary A S Daughter Single F 6 1895
Shoreditch
London VIEW
HARLAND, James H Son Single M 5 1896
Hackney
London VIEW
HARLAND, Jane E C Daughter Single F 4 1897
Shoreditch
London VIEW
HARLAND, Phoebe J Daughter Single F 0 (7 MOS) 1901
Islington
London

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 May 2009 23:29

Births Dec 1873 (>99%)
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HARTLAND Emily Hannah Bethnal Green 1c 202




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Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%)
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CADE Thomas Shoreditch 1c 259
CONNER Louisa Shoreditch 1c 259
Hartland Emily Hannah Shoreditch 1c 259
Wilkins Frederick Shoreditch 1c 259

Wendy

Wendy Report 22 May 2009 23:20

that cant be James Hartland born 1869 as he was still alive on the 1881 census that you found Christine.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 May 2009 23:16

Births Dec 1871 (>99%)
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Hartland Annie Emily Bethnal Green 1c 191


Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%)
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Bowler George Augustus Shoreditch 1c 189
Cranmer Eliza Frances Shoreditch 1c 189
Hartland Annie Emily Shoreditch 1c 189
Webster George Shoreditch 1c 189

1901 Address: 8, Branch Place, Shoreditch
BOWLER, George Head Married M 28 1873 House Painter
Homerton
London VIEW
BOWLER, Annie Wife Married F 29 1872
Hackney
London

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 May 2009 23:04

Deaths Sep 1878 (>99%)
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HARTLAND James 30 Mile End 1c 352

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 May 2009 22:56

Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
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Bastion Thomas James Bethnal Green 1c 635
HARTLAND Caroline Ann E Bethnal Green 1c 635

1901 Address: 8, Branch Place, Shoreditch
BASTION, Thomas Head Married M 39 1862 Yard Foreman
Kingsland
London VIEW
BASTION, Caroline Wife Married F 40 1861
City
London


Wendy

Wendy Report 22 May 2009 22:47

Christine lm guessing that Henry W and Harry are one and the same? Mary A vanished in 1881 but turns up 10yrs later?? and Anie and James both vanish by 1891!!

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 May 2009 22:44

Births Dec 1860 (>99%)
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HARTLAND Caroline Ann Emily W London 1c 43

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 May 2009 22:40

marriage of Charles J H parents

Marriages Mar 1859 (>99%)
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Hartland Charles Adolphus Shoreditch 1c 401
Hartland Charles Udolphus Shoreditch 1c 401
Wright Caroline Ann Shoreditch 1c 401

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 May 2009 22:31

1861 Address: 23, Charter House Street, St Sepulchre, London
HARTLAND, Charles Head Married M 24 1837 Fitter Press Printer
Hampstead VIEW
HARTLAND, Caroline Wife Married F 23 1838
Grays...Road VIEW
HARTLAND, Caroline A D Daughter Unmarried F 0 (5M) 1861
Charter House ST

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 May 2009 22:25

1881 Address: 27, Norfolk Place, Shoreditch
HARTLAND, Charles Head Married M 45 1836 Letter Press Printer
Hampstead
Middlesex
HARTLAND, Caroline Wife Married F 43 1838
St Pancras
Middlesex
HARTLAND, Charles Son Single M 16 1865 Machine Boy (Print)
Clerkenwell
Middlesex
HARTLAND, Caroline Daughter Single F 20 1861 Machinist (Und)
Lond City
Middlesex
HARTLAND, James Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar
Lond City
Middlesex
HARTLAND, Anie Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar
Bethnal Green
Middlesex
HARTLAND, Emily Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Bethnal Green
Middlesex
HARTLAND, Harry Son Single M 3 1878
Bethnal Green
Middlesex

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 May 2009 22:23

1891 Address: 3, Red Lion Street, Shoreditch
HARTLAND, Caroline Head Widow F 53 1838 Chair Caner
Clavering VIEW
HARTLAND, Charles J H Son Single M 26 1865 Carpenters Porter
Clavering Clerkenwell VIEW
HARTLAND, Mary A Daughter Single F 24 1867 Servant Cook
Clevering Smithford VIEW
HARTLAND, Emily H Daughter Single F 18 1873 Boot Work
Clavering Hackney VIEW
HARTLAND, Henry W Son M 13 1878 Printers Errand Boy
Clavering Hackney VIEW
HARTLAND, Elizth Daughter F 9 1882
Clavering Shoreditch

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 May 2009 22:06

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Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
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Wells William Ferris Shoreditch 1c 85

Do you mean like this one?

He is William Wells mothers maiden name Ferris born Shoreditch. It may be a coincidence. Have you checked the 1911 census?

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 May 2009 22:02

Name: HARTLAND, CAROLINE ALICE
Initials: C A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 72
Date of Death: 16/10/1940
Additional information: of 17 Upwey Street. Wife of Charles James Hartland. Died at 17 Upwey Street.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: SHOREDITCH, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 22 May 2009 22:02

Name: HARTLAND, CHARLES JAMES HENRY
Initials: C J H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 75
Date of Death: 16/10/1940
Additional information: of 17 Upwey Street. Husband of Caroline Alice Hartland. Injured at 17 Upwey Street; died same day at St. Leonard's Hospital.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: SHOREDITCH, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH

Wendy

Wendy Report 22 May 2009 21:59

Christine Im baffled by the Ferris Wells males you have listed surely if they are offspring of any offspring of Mary A, Louseina etc they would just have the surname of whoever their mothers married?

Wendy

Wendy Report 22 May 2009 21:53

Christine I believe l have found Thomas Edward Wells he was baptised in July 1907 at the St James the great in Bethnal green and is listed as being 5weeks old but I believe l have found his registering as oct-dec 1907 1c 131 bethnal green so he was baptised then 4-5 months later they registered him???
Janice .. l dont think that is any of my Ferris's as James and Esther were born 1839 +1835 so they would have been in their 50s-60s when that Albert Ferris was born unless of course he is an offspring of Mary A , Louseina, etc
Dancingdee unfortunately most of the family photo's were lost when Caroline and Charles J H Hartlands house got bombed in the war, my grandfathers family seemed to have drifted away a lot so nobody knows if any surviving relatives ave any photo's.
Christine snap!!! l found the 1891 census of the William Wells clan too am trying to find any marriages for any of the offsprings of the Hartland, Wells, Macguires, Hartlands now not easy as this is the only site lm subscribed to and cant afford to do the credits thing with any other site so that along with my noviceness is proving difficult.
thank you all for your help l just hope between us we can bring things forward , l also hope l can be of help not a hinder lol.