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nudge

proper streaming ? sorry you lost me suzian

HAVNT READ ALL

BUT KIDS NEE TO LEARN SOCIAL
SKILLS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
WITH THEIR OWN AGE GROUP

And perhaps a justification for proper streaming?

its been a good thread

its very good ...nice everyone joins in to...

its only me checking my thread
its nice to see a good debate on here

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no lol am not here its me lol

you still up

thanks again all

Yes every child has special needs.

It used to really annoy me years ago if I needed to prepare a report on a child in my class for a child psychologist. I'd spend hours on it then the child would be assessed.
Eventually I'd usually get back some glib comment like "This child could do with one to one attention". To which I felt like saying "So? And how am I supposed to do that with over 30 in the class?"

Educators should be trying to bring out of each child its own strengths and enabling it to achieve as much of its own potential as possible.

Sue

Helen had that with my daughter, she was 5 her first year,, she could read before she went to school she came back crying .. ask her why said she hadnt got a reading book and all the others had,,, i went ask why..couldnt believe what i heard ,, the other children were catching up.. was not happy and took me a week complaining how wrong it was.. she got a book in the end but she could read that to...... i made sure it didnt happen again ......

I'm interested that some of you have mentioned that "special needs kids' of all kinds are doing better at home. It's the one to one stuff, isn't it? All children whatever their ability perform better with individual attention and no-one is surprised to hear this.

I just want to mention the average, fairly able kids who find themselves in mainstream classes with several kids who need extra attention - they get left behind because they don't get any attention. All the schools' energy is focussed on the less able.

I have worked in schools at secondary level down to nursery age and time and again I have found the government guidelines expect the brighter kids to coast along, with no encouragement, because other children need more help. But what about encouraging everybody, including the able?

No wonder bright kids are also being home-schooled, as they are increasingly discriminated against in mainstream schools.

Rant over.

I believe childrens education isnt just about reading and writing and arithmitic its about socialising, learning to interact, share, debate etc and home tutoring limits this. On the other hand the child who ends up labelled naughty just because hes bored might benefit from alternative form of education.

THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENTS SUE

It very much depends on the child and the educator.

I taught in a primary school before marrying and having my own kids. I then did a lot of pre-school things with them.
They were able to go to the school where I had taught and where my husband still taught. For them it was an extension of home for the first few years. Some of the teachers they knew as friends at home while calling them by their more formal surnames at school.
The school had a lot of advantages over home as well as over some smaller schools in the area. I did supply teaching sometimes in tiny schools and saw that there could be limitations due to lack of resources and space.
For example the school where mine did their primary education had a large gym and a pool and things like gymnastics and swimming went on there without us having to go elsewhere to find all these activities. There were enough kids in a class to do things which needed a lot of children and there were a variety of children to choose friends from.

However........my husband became very ill as my older daughter reached the end of primary school. He had to retire due to cancer (fortunately now in remission) and we had several years of real stress in the family.

The school changed head teachers at the same time as well as some other members of staff. The place became very different and the teacher who replaced my husband was rubbish. She was probably the worst I have come across.

I wish I'd taken my younger daughter out and taught her myself but at that point I was spending so much time in the hospital with my husband and couldn't do it.

I have seen some children who ought to go to school though. I knew a mother who really smothered her daughter to the extent that she went everywhere with her even in to ballet classes. The child never played with others unless her mother came too and joined in. My heart sank when this mother asked me what I thought of the idea of home schooling. I knew she had already made up her mind.
The mother herself admitted the daughter would only be good at the same subjects as she herself was. Mother was a very good linguist and a qualified interpreter I think and last I heard the child was indeed a clone of her mother.
In that case I feel the child missed out on the opportunity to be inspired by someone else and perhaps find her own subjects which fascinated her.

Sue

Good thread Hoff well done xxxx

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