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Eldrick

Eldrick Report 17 May 2008 19:56

Legality is a perception. No one can answer you.

I know if Iraq had invaded the UK I would be fighting tooth and nail to get them out. To many of them, and Afghans, and Irishmen, Argentinians (Falklands) and Spaniards (Gibraltar), the UK is in the wrong and so we may be. The victor writes the history and gets to call it legal, moral or whatever he chooses. The Nazi's honestly believed their cause was noble.

You question is really one of semantics that cannot be answered.

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 17 May 2008 19:57

GA wasnt that Kurdish by chemical Ali or am I getting mixed up ,,,

Robert

Robert Report 17 May 2008 19:57

both my son's have been to Iraq and Afhanistan twice.
Ask them .
Both will say futile , Getting rid of a despot fine,but i personaly believe it was abuot oil.
what was the first thing the americans did in Iraq .yes protect the oil fields.
Econimists say the us will shortley run out of oil .
Nuff said.
Blair as we know was a puppet so the puppet meister in chief has murdered( in my opinion hunderds of young lives) hope he gets his just rewards in hell. us

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 17 May 2008 20:01

My son was the same SM....served in Iraq...but he was paid to do a job... he work for the government and thats where they required him to be....

Guardian Angel

Guardian Angel Report 17 May 2008 20:07

Hi Hayley,

The Chemical Ali murders!, no not the same but just as bad..

All very grim! Ali was sentenced to death last year, however legal wrangling keeps him and other alive..

GA

John

John Report 17 May 2008 20:10

I was in Suez, in Cyprus, in Borneo, in Ireland. All maybe not as bad as iraq and Afghanistan -my son in the Falklands. As Hayley mentioned - paid by the government and that was my work and I did it. Legal or Illegal ??? As Eldrick - Legality is a Perception.

Wild Cat

Wild Cat Report 17 May 2008 20:11

GA i agree theres no actual legal/illegal side that i can see either

Guardian Angel

Guardian Angel Report 17 May 2008 20:13

Good point the Oil!

OPEC keep oil prices high by not supplying to much of it.

I believe, and correct me if i am wrong that Iraq was one of the biggest oil producers on the planet.

If only the people of Iraq could move on and use the wealth to rebuild their country. Or should that read, if others would let the Iraqi people use the oil.....

and hopefully our petrol/diesel will be cheaper! but that's another story..

GA

Eeyore13

Eeyore13 Report 17 May 2008 20:17

I have promised my son should he ever be called up for a war which is nothing to do with us-I will personally break both of his legs.I'm sick of this country getting involved in conflicts 'cause another country deems it right.I cannot imagine what people go through when their loved ones are dragged into these dangerous situations,it's inexcusable.

jgee

jgee Report 17 May 2008 20:18

Hi GA, what year where you refering to

Guardian Angel

Guardian Angel Report 17 May 2008 20:25

Hi Joan.

Year?
If you are asking what year that this happened to the Kurdish people, it was during the late 80's.

GA



jgee

jgee Report 17 May 2008 20:30

was it 85 or 88

Guardian Angel

Guardian Angel Report 17 May 2008 20:34

Joan,

I cannot unfortunately give you an exact date for what the Chap told me because he never said. but i do know it was mid to late 80's the same time as the Chemical Ali stuff.. Why are you asking?

GA

jgee

jgee Report 17 May 2008 20:40

I do know its one of those 2 years also the date of one

Guardian Angel

Guardian Angel Report 17 May 2008 20:41

Which one and what date joan..pm if you wish..

GA

Uggers

Uggers Report 17 May 2008 21:23

I'm not sure if the invasion of Iraq was illegal but I do think it was immoral in that the reasons given for invasion were not the true ones. There are other countries in similar conditions with equally tyrannical rulers but we don't bother about them.

John

John Report 17 May 2008 21:30

Hi Mac, from one ex-Navy to another - How's the weather..? John

Eldrick

Eldrick Report 17 May 2008 21:35

I would put the Bay of Pigs as a much bigger crisis than Iran with the USA having a far less stable government than it has in the present day......and there has never been any period of time for over 100 years where the world has not either been in conflict or where there has been a threat of it.

So our grandchildren have no better or worse than we or our parents did.

It all needs to stay in perspective.

John

John Report 17 May 2008 21:36

So when did you leave the happy crowd of matelots??

Sally Moonchild

Sally Moonchild Report 17 May 2008 21:38

lol Mac and John.......very quick......x