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Hi INis and Sylvia,

I don't have much information on Nicholas John Carney or his wife Margaret Carney all I really have is their death certificates in Scotland. Nicholas died in Glasgow/Lanark 24th September 1911 aged 57 and his wife Margaret Carney nee Kennedy registered the death.
Margaret Carney nee Kennedy died in Dundee in November 1934 aged 70, my grandfather who was Mary Carney's husband registered the death.

So Nicholas would have been born c1854 and Margaret c1864.

Betty

Betty,

it was just a suggestion, as you don't seem able to find her birth in Belfast!


sylvia

Hi INis,

I have followed Nicholas John Carney from his hairdressers shop in Short Strand and found his brothers as someone else is also related to one of the brother's too. I have him in the Street Directories.

Nicholas Carney, 21 Smithfield.
Nicholas Carney 13 Hammond Court
Nicholas Carney 8 Highstreet Place

Betty

Nudge for Sylvia

Hi Sylvia,

Thanks for your message, its just the family are in Antrim from early on up to 1900, all the births of the children have been there. I have information that her father still had a hairdressers shop in
Carney, N., hair dresser, 4 Short Strand, Ballymacarrett Road to Albert Bridge Road. He had several brothers also hairdressers as below.

Thos Carney, 21 Smithfield

Richd Carney, 21 Smithfield

I also found this in this Subject: CARNEY'S IN IRELAND 1891 IRISH PARLIAMENT PARTY


Clippings
BELFAST NATIONAL COMMITTEE IN SUSTAINMENT OF THE IRISH PARLIAMENTARY PARTY Morning News - 11 March, 1891

N J Carney, 16 Whitehall Court

Now that is Nicholas John Carney in 1891 after my grandmothers birth.

Betty

Betty

the statement your grandmother made about coming from Belfast to Scotland is not really definitive evidence that she was BORN in Belfast.


She could have been born elsewhere, and moved to Belfast while a small child.

We've all had plenty of these, ancestors who didn't know where they were born!



sylvia

Thanks Alviegirl,

So she died shortly after being born then, wondered why I hadn't found her in Scotland when the family came over here.
Appreciate your help!!

Betty

Sorry not much help but Jane doesn't seem to have been around long.

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Jane Kennedy Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth: 02 AUG 1869 Belfast, Antrim, Ireland

Christening:
Death: 30 AUG 1869

Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Humphrey Kennedy Family
Mother: Mary Brown


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Found another child born to Humphrey Kennedy and Mary Brown on Family Search.

Samuel Kennedy Male

Event(s):
Birth: 07 OCT 1874 0307, , Antrim, Ireland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


Parents:
Father: Humphery Kennedy
Mother: Mary Brown

Hi again INis,

No my grandmother was born in Belfast because she told my cousin who is a lot older than me that she came from Belfast to Glasgow/Lanark area with her parents and sisters. She met my grandfather in Glasgow as he was working in the mines there and they came back to Dundee and married in 1903. She also had a sister Catherine who married in Dundee in 1906.

Betty

Hi INis,

Thank you for looking, why would that be that she isn't on Ancestry Ireland or Emerald Ancestors.

Does that mean I will never be able to find my Grandmother or her parents?? My Grandmother would have been born c1880.

Betty

Hi INis,

Yes I know you did look before and thank you for that, but so strange that James and Jane births are there but Margaret Kennedy's isn't.

Betty

Hi INas,

Thanks for those births but no sign of Margaret Kennedy (who would have been the sister of these two James Kennedy and Jane Kennedy) who married my great grandfather Nicholas John Carney though.

Betty

Sorry everyone, I have been getting mixed up between my Carney's and my Kennedy's here.

Soooooorrry everyone.

Betty

Hi Donna,

Yes that is the correct one, I don't know how you all managed that, must be because I put Humphrey's name in first, really appreciate everyone's help, thank you all.

Betty

Hi Inis,

Yes that must be the one, I couldn't find it on family Search, how did you manage it the? Thank you!!

Betty

Hi Potty,

No I haven't as yet tried Emerald Ancestors because I am sitll trying to find their son Nicholas John Carney (hairdresser) who married Margaret Kennedy (my great grandparents) who in turn had my grandmother Mary Carney c1880.
I have a long way to go before I can search Humphrey and Mary Brown..

Betty

Hi Betty

I have had a quick look for you and the only Mary Brown marrying someone called Humphrey was a Humphrey Kennedy. The marriage took place in Belfast in 1866.

Sorry, if this isn't of any help

Donna

No, Betty I couldn't find it using Humphrey's name, either Carney or Kearney so I just used Mary Brown's name and the year 1866 in Ireland.

Hi Margaret,

Where and how did you find it?? I did put in Humphrey Kennedy name first, is that what I am doing wrong, I didn't know that it mattered what way male or female name you put in first!!

Betty