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Ancestry help please, re names of parents?

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Rider9

Rider9 Report 16 Oct 2007 13:28

Yes that is the right address and the right member of the Fletcher family I am enquiring about -thanks!

Rider9

Rider9 Report 16 Oct 2007 13:27

many thanks - I did not know these replies were here. I shall study the info given.

Thanks again

Thelma

Thelma Report 16 Oct 2007 12:39

I have found an address for Thomas W Fletcher.Does it ring a bell?
Year 1923 16 Croxteth Road Liverpool

Thelma

Thelma Report 16 Oct 2007 12:26

Now assuming this is the right family in Helmsby ,there are several entries on shipping lists including:-
- New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name Arrival Date Estimated birth year Gender Port of Departure Ethnicity/ Nationality Ship Name

Annettia Fletcher 25 Apr 1877 abt 1872 Female Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland English Abyssinia
Cornelia Fletcher 25 Apr 1877 abt 1853 Female Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland English Abyssinia
Enfield Fletcher 25 Apr 1877 abt 1876 Male Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland English Abyssinia
Thos Fletcher 25 Apr 1877 abt 1847 Male Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland English Abyssinia

Thelma

Thelma Report 16 Oct 2007 12:20

Hi Reg
Good job you are here to help me out again.
There is only one male,Enfield Fletcher, so it must be the right family
The house name is not shown on any census but it is almost certainly the family living there in 1891
T Walter Fletcher Thomas,Nella abt 1881 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Son Helsby Cheshire
In 1901 the family are in Liverpool and the only people in the house are the gardener and his wife.
John Dallimore Ellen abt 1840 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Head Helsby Cheshire

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Oct 2007 10:38

Jim

You need to cross-refer this thread with the other one posted by rider9 to get the complete picture.......

Reg

Thelma

Thelma Report 16 Oct 2007 00:16

Maureen
I find that people move around and address searches are rarely successful.

This is the next door neighbour in 1891.
Still there in 1901 but the Fletcher's are not.
1901
Millicent A Taylor James abt 1864 Stapleford, Nottinghamshire, England Wife Helsby Cheshire

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Oct 2007 23:42

Jim,

I only posted that birth as the original request was I know a bit misleading on possible dates for the family so it looks like that birth is wrong

Maureen

Thelma

Thelma Report 15 Oct 2007 23:37

The original question
Eveline Fletcher 1894 Jul-Aug-Sep Runcorn Cheshire
The answer
Evelyn Fletcher William,Elizabeth abt 1895 Kingsley, Cheshire, England Daughter Kingsley Cheshire

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Oct 2007 23:36

So the 1891 address matches but did not stay there for the 1901.

Glad I did not trawl through 50 images in 1901

Maureen

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Oct 2007 23:32

Some of them in 1901

Name: Nellie Fletcher
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: France

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bede
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:


Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 98
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 194
Household Members: Name Age
Lillie Evans 24
Annie M Fletcher 22
Nellie Fletcher 49 WIDOW
Tom W Fletcher 20
Ellen Price 21
Mary Pritchard 25

Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Oct 2007 23:25

I've now looked at your previous thread about this family.

Is this right for 1891?

Name: Enfield E Fletcher
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Nella
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Helsby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Helsby
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England


Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Frodsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Blackburne 36
Arabella Blackburne 15
Jane Blackburne 12
Sarah Copes 24

Annie M Fletcher 13 b. New York
Enfield E Fletcher 14
Nella Fletcher 37 b. France
Thomas Fletcher 49 Shipowner, b. Liverpool
T Walter Fletcher 10 b. Liverpool

Annie Gazey 49
Ernst Schicor 45 Visitor


Address: Chester Road

It doesn't always pay to start a new thread................unless you include ALL the info

Reg

Rider9

Rider9 Report 15 Oct 2007 23:03

Thanks Reg.

Maureen - I got the information from my 92 year old father that they were there then - I will be checking more info with him tomorrow.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Oct 2007 22:54

How do you know they were at that address at the time of the 1901 census?

You had no idea of when the children were born or the names of the parents.

Maureen

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Oct 2007 22:54

There were 21 Fletchers in Helsby in 1901


Amos Fletcher James,
Hannah abt 1888 Helsby, Cheshire, England Son Helsby Cheshire
View Record
Aston Fletcher James,
Hannah abt 1880 Helsby, Cheshire, England Son Helsby Cheshire
View Record
Bertie Fletcher James,
Hannah abt 1886 Helsby, Cheshire, England Son Helsby Cheshire
View Record
Edith Fletcher Thomas A,
Sarah H abt 1898 Helsby, Cheshire, England Daughter Helsby Cheshire
View Record
Elizabeth Fletcher Thomas A,
Sarah H abt 1889 Helsby, Cheshire, England Daughter Helsby Cheshire
View Record
Elizabeth Fletcher abt 1880 Kingswood, Cheshire, England Servant Helsby Cheshire
View Record
Hannah Fletcher James abt 1852 Helsby, Cheshire, England Wife Helsby Cheshire
View Record
Herbert Fletcher Thomas A,
Sarah H abt 1894 Helsby, Cheshire, England Son Helsby Cheshire
View Record
James Fletcher Hannah abt 1847 Helsby, Cheshire, England Head Helsby Cheshire
View Record
James A Fletcher James,
Hannah abt 1890 Helsby, Cheshire, England Son Helsby Cheshire
John Fletcher William,
Mary abt 1899 Helsby, Cheshire, England Son Helsby Cheshire
View Record
Joseph C Fletcher William,
Mary abt 1897 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Son Helsby Cheshire
View Record
Lenord Fletcher James,
Hannah abt 1884 Helsby, Cheshire, England Son Helsby Cheshire
View Record
Lillian Fletcher James,
Hannah abt 1891 Helsby, Cheshire, England Daughter Helsby Cheshire
View Record
Mabel Fletcher James,
Hannah abt 1892 Helsby, Cheshire, England Daughter Helsby Cheshire
View Record
Mary Fletcher William abt 1869 Willington, Cheshire, England Wife Helsby Cheshire
View Record
Mary Fletcher William,
Mary abt 1900 Helsby, Cheshire, England Daughter Helsby Cheshire
View Record
Sarah H Fletcher Thomas A abt 1860 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife Helsby Cheshire
View Record
Thomas A Fletcher Sarah H abt 1863 Helsby, Cheshire, England Head Helsby Cheshire
View Record
William Fletcher Mary abt 1859 Alvanley, Cheshire, England Head Helsby Cheshire
William Fletcher William,
Mary abt 1898 Rock Ferry, Cheshire, England Son Helsby Cheshire

Reg

Rider9

Rider9 Report 15 Oct 2007 22:53

thanks Reg

Just seen your list of people... I will check our records and make sure they were in Helsby in 1901 - and not Kingsley. Many thanks, I may be back tomorrow!

Thanks all

Rider9

Rider9 Report 15 Oct 2007 22:49

thanks all.

Reggie, I know the Fletchers were in Helsby on the 1901 census; they were at Undercliffe, Chester Road, Helsby.... but Glitter Baby wasn't able to find them because there were too many records to go through even though it was only a small village. There were 50 I think.

Too much to ask for a free look up so I think I will need to buy some credits and have a look. It was worth a try!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Oct 2007 22:49

Rider9

Please can we have the full story?

Willing to help, but don't want to use up time on a futile search...........

Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Oct 2007 22:47

This MAY be her.........

Name: Evelyn Fletcher
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingsley, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Kingsley
Ecclesiastical parish: Kingsley
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England


Registration district: Runcorn
Sub-registration district: Frodsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Fletcher 38 b. Acton Prage
Evelyn Fletcher 6
Sarah L Fletcher 9
William Fletcher 36 b. Kingsley
William Fletcher 12
Mary Littlemore 15


If you go to the freebmd website, you should be able to find the marriage of the parents...........

Reg

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 15 Oct 2007 22:46

Unfortunately she was not in Helsby where the original request started from.

Without some idea of the parents I gave up on this one earlier as was not able to connect with other siblings that were mentioned.

Good luck with the hunt

Maureen