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Name is probably Mark, but as he spoke with an accent, the census taker may have got it wrong.

If you get Mark and Emily's marriage certificate, it will probably give you Mark's father's name and occupation.

I'm not any good with Russian research, but someone else on here might be able to help you

Mark on 1881 census is Max on 1901 my could they not keep to one name at least

Sorry 1881 census not 1891

getting better now they are all the same but one is 1891 census other 1901
thankgod thought i was starting to lose it then.

Once i have tried to get cert can i get further back as it is now in Russia

Right fix my head where do the Clefner's come in if its them was i going up the wrong way and now one of them is the father to my Robert Henry b 1913

Yep, me thinks you've got it right, but you'll need to prove it up with the birth and marriage certificates.

Hi Lew trying my best to keep up with you Please check i have this right
We think

Mark Clempner b. 1854 Poland and Emily Harney are parents to
Henry/Harry b1883 who married Margaret Black in 1906 who are parents to the
Robert Henry Clempner b.1913 who married Margaret Marsh b1919
which are the parents to Peter Clempner


God how messed up my head issssss

Mistranscribed in 1901. Image does read Clempner

1901 England Census
about Max Clemfner
Name: Max Clemfner
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Rus Russian Subject

Civil Parish: Broughton
Ecclesiastical parish: Lower Broughton St Clement
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Broughton
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Clemfner 12
David Clemfner 19
Dora Clemfner 20
Emily Clemfner 46
Harry Clemfner 18
Johnny Clemfner 13
Joseph Clemfner 16
Max Clemfner 46

I think that "Harry" might be "Henry", but you will need to get Henry's marriage certificate to see his father's name

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983

Name: Mark Clempner to Emily Harney
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Manchester (1837-1924)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 467

Any way of linking Mark to Henry or Robert i thik they did come from over seas but thought it might of been Russia

1891 Scotland Census
about Harry Clempner
Name: Harry Clempner
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration Number: 685A/2
Registration district: St George Burgh
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 6 Orwell Ter
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 104
Page: 8 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 46
Line: 22
Roll: CSSCT1891_338
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Clempner 1
David J Clempner 10
Dora Clempner 12
Edward Clempner 15
Ellen M Clempner 14
Emily Clempner 33
Ethel Clempner 13
Harry Clempner 8
Joe Clempner 5
John Clempner 3

hi lew do you think the last 2 you entered are granchildren

1881 England Census
about Mark Clemptnor
Name: Mark Clemptnor
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: (For), Poland

Civil Parish: Broughton in Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 33 Charlotte St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Macintosh Waterproof Works (Crdr Mkr)

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Broughton
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Dora Clemptnor 1
Edward Clemptnor 5
Ellen Clemptnor 4
Emily Clemptnor 26
Mark Clemptnor 27
Mary E. Clemptnor 2
Edward Harney 49

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Ethel Clempner
Name: Ethel Clempner
Year of Registration: 1878
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Chorlton
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 794

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Millicent Clempner
Name: Millicent Clempner
Year of Registration: 1877
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Chorlton
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 832

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Ethel Millicent Clempner
Name: Ethel Millicent Clempner
Birth Date: 31 Jul 1912
Death Registration Month/Year: Feb 1994
Age at death (estimated): 81
Registration district: Blackpool and Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register number: KL6A
Entry Number: 229

Thanks god been trying to find anything on them for ages you lot found in seconds FANTASTIC BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
Does anyone know anymore ??????

And his wife's death

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Margaret Clempner
Name: Margaret Clempner
Birth Date: 8 Jul 1919
Death Registration Month/Year: Nov 2002
Age at death (estimated): 83
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register number: J69B
Entry Number: 267

His death:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Robert Henry Clempner
Name: Robert Henry Clempner
Birth Date: 26 Sep 1913
Death Registration Month/Year: Jul 1999
Age at death (estimated): 85
Registration district: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register number: E70B
Entry Number: 25

Might be parents, but B/C will comfirm

Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)
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BENTLEY Tom Bramhall Chorlton 8c 1087
>>>BLACK Margaret Ellen Chorlton 8c 1087
>>CLEMPNER Henry Chorlton 8c 1087
WHITNEY Ida Chorlton 8c 1087