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Hello, Well i've been on 1837 all day! I've found Mary Ann's marriage to Henry (Harry) Jackson!! They married in 1880!! so the Washburn death in 1879 must be right. Now all ive got to do is find a ref for Mary Ann's birth. Thanks for all your help everybody Kerrie

Hello, thanks for all the info again!! I have just bought some units for 1837, but I cant find a thing (maybe i'm doing this wrong) :( Do you think maybe Thomas James had gone by the name of Jackson! On one of the censuses he was known as Thomas James Washburn Jackson. Just a thought. Thanks again Kerrie

The only person resembling your Thomas James I can find on 1901 and it has taken ages is T Washburn Single Age 20 Crewe member Royal Navy born Chester,Cheshire. Present on board His Majesty's Ship 'Hawk', Hampshire. I know the age is wrong but that is the least of our worries with this lot. If I were you I would send for that birth certificate that Helen has verified and also take a chance on the wedding certificate because it may give occupation that proves he was in the Navy. Helen - did you see if there were any Thomas Washburn's born 1876 that fit. I've run out of units at the moment. I noticed on 1881 that Mary Ann's brother spelt his name Hancox. What is it with your lot!! Good Luck,Tricia

Hello Kerrie. I've looked on 1837online and the birth ref is definitely Dec 1875 Thomas James Washburn West Bromwich 6b p812. Not 912. He's the only Washburn. ON freebmd, there is a Richard Washburn who married in West Brom, and a Thomas Washburn, who married in Nantwich, (I forgot to note the years, but both were early 1870's), however none of the brides were Mary Ann. Helen

Bearing in mind Thomas James was probably born in Runcorn and it seems to figure a great deal it might be an idea to 'file' this death in case it is his father. Death qrt ending Dec 1879 Thomas Washburn Runcorn 8a 152 He was aged 26 which fits in nicely with Mary Ann and must have died between 1875 and 1881. Just a thought. Tricia

Sorry Lynsey I thought I had Kerrie

kerry you will have to give me permission to look at your tree and then i will see what i can dig up for you lynsey

Hello Lynsey, There may be a connection with the my Jacksons, Have a look at my tree!! The son Harry Jackson was once Mayor of Helsby (so my Gran told me years ago), If you find a conncection PLEASE PLEASE let me know, up until now I have only found one person who has a slight connection to my tree (and that was 1828 in Northumberland). I'm getting quite a complex!!! I know how you feel my memory is going as well, I sit her staring at a computer screen with a dazed look on my face wondering what I'm doing here :) Thanks Kerrie

Both 1891 and 1901 census images now Emailed to you. Let me know if you have received them and in case you didn't how can I find Thomas on 1881?? We still have a problem because we need to find out where he was definitely born and I can't find him on 1901 to verify West Bromwich or Runcorn. Tricia /

ps my mums partner is a jackson and their are quite alot of them in runcorn. if that helps

hi kerry i am from widnes which is just across the water from Runcorn. just to let you know Surrey Street is still standing, just incase you ever want to visit his house!!! (well u might do!) i was going to say something else but i forgot what it was lol. if you want any details on runcorn i will try to help as much as i can.

Hello again, on the 1891 census Thomas' birthplace was down as Runcorn, Cheshire. Kerrie

Hello Tricia, WOW! I got all my information from the censuses, and on the 1881 census Thomas J Wasburn was born in West Brom, Staffs (unless I wrote it down wrong). It is the same family as Sarah Jackson is my G.Grandmother. My email is [email protected]

His birthplace looks like Runcorn - where did you get your information from?? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 1891 census Living 56 Surrey St Runcorn Harry Jackson Head age 30 General labourer born Briston Mary Ann Wife age 32 born Birmingham Thomas J Washburn Son 15 Scholar born Chester(?) Runcorn Frederick J Jackson Son 8 born Runcorn Sarah Dau age 8 born Runcorn Susannah Dau age 6 Harry Son age 3 Ernest Son age 1 Blanche Dau 3 months. All children born Runcorn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- As Thomas J is living in Runcorn this could be his marriage. This cert will give father. Name Year Quarter District County Volume Page Crute, Frederick 1903 September Runcorn Cheshire 8a 502 Crute, Frederick William 1903 September Runcorn Cheshire 8a 502 Goodfellow, Louisa 1903 September Runcorn Cheshire 8a 502 Snape, Ann 1903 September Runcorn Cheshire 8a 502 Washburn, Thomas James 1903 September Runcorn Cheshire 8a 502 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Tricia - back in a moment OK - On 1901 Harry's birthplace is clearly Bristol,Glous and Mary Ann is still Birmingham. Thomas is not with them and I haven't found him yet. There is another child Joseph age 8 in 1901

On the 1891 census Thomas is living with Mary Ann Jackson and family and his birthplace is not given as Staffs. It looks like Chester or perhaps Cheshire then a word I can't make out. Send me your Email and I will send a copy. Perhaps someone else could have look and see what they think?? Tricia

Hello, Mary Ann was my G.G.Grandmother, I have a copy of my G.Grandmother's birth certificate and it says Mary Ann Jackson late Washburn formerly Hancock. Thanks Kerrie

I have no idea if they are the same person but they do have seperate entries. Is she definitely Mary Ann Hancock?? Can only find a Mary Ann Wilcox marrying a Charles Washborne Staffs in 1874

Both these births appear on Ancestry and FeeBMD Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Dec 1875 Washburn Thomas James West Bromwich 6b 812 Washburn Thomas James West Bromwich 6b 912 I haven't traced marriage yet - perhaps some one else has had more luck

Thanks Patricia, Do you think they are the same person (well, the page no. is nearly the same :) Kerrie

Thanks for your help Carol, is there any indication of parents' marriage ANYWHERE!!! Iam really really stuck Thanks again Kerrie