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Yes, occupation deffinately throws doubt to whether it is him, maybe the marriage cert will help! Good luck in finding him Lynne. Lib:))

Lady Do you think that's him? What is his occupation please? I have just found his marriage to Ann, June Qtr 1889. I can't believe it, she married him so quickly, I wonder if they were having an affair!! Joseph Thomas Owen only died in 1889!!! Lynne

Match Quality View Record Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Residence View Image Thomas is a widower! Occupation, Green ????? 1881 View Record Clara Parker abt 1861 Bham, Warwickshire, England Daughter 40 Camden St, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England >>>View Record Elizebeth Parker abt 1875 Bham, Warwickshire, England Daughter 40 Camden St, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England >>>View Record Thomas Parker abt 1836 Bham, Warwickshire, England Head 40 Camden St, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England RG11/2964 Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: Lady Wood ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Folio: 69 Page: 29 For some reason I cant access 1871, when i click to access it takes me to a list of Benjamin Parkers....lol ************************* Same family in 1861: Occupation, looks like Green impliment maker! View Record Lucy Field abt 1801 Birmingham Grandmother, Grandma Birmingham Warwickshire View Record Clara Elizabeth Parker abt 1860 Birmingham Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire View Record Elizabeth Parker abt 1837 Birmingham Wife Birmingham Warwickshire View Record Thomas Parker abt 1833 Birmingham Head Birmingham Warwickshire RG9/2148 Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Folio: 106 Page: 2 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 10 GSU Number: 542925

Jess Thanks for looking at all those records, you are a star! Lady That one is a possible, except for Thomas' place of birth but I suppose it could be wrong on the 1891. I think I'm going to have to shelve this one for a while and try another line. Maybe I will look for the marriage of Thomas and Ann, as I know Joseph Thomas Owen died in 1889 (didn't take her long to re-marry - LOL!) Thanks again everyone. Lynne

Match Quality View Record Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Residence View Image >>>View Record Eliza Parker abt 1874 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Daughter 106 Bromsgrove St, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England View Record Florence E. Parker abt 1870 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Daughter 106 Bromsgrove St, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England View Record George Parker abt 1872 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Son 106 Bromsgrove St, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England View Record Mary A. Parker abt 1840 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Wife 106 Bromsgrove St, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England >>>>View Record Thomas Parker abt 1840 Marshfield, Gloucestershire, England Head 106 Bromsgrove St, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England View Record Thomas Parker abt 1871 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Son 106 Bromsgrove St, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Lady Liberty Sorry, I don't know if there were any other children as I have only found Thomas in 1891. Jess, Thanks, I'll come back in a little while as I'm at work. Lynne

trying elimination. all the elizabeth parkers born warwickshire 1875 +/- 1 Bear with me while i go thru these View Record Elizabeth Parker abt 1876 Bham, Warwickshire, England Daughter 4 Edward St Cottages, Aston, Warwickshire, England father =John/martha View Record Elizabeth Parker abt 1876 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Daughter Bk 28 Howe St, Aston, Warwickshire, England Father =Samuel/Louisa View Record Elizabeth Parker abt 1874 Stoneleigh, Warwickshire, England Daughter Eastern Green, Stoneleigh, Warwickshire, England father = George/Lydia View Record Elizth. Parker abt 1874 Stockinford, Warwickshire, England Daughter Swan Lane, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, England father = Thomas/Jane View Record Ellen Elizabeth Parker abt 1875 Bham, Warwickshire, England Daughter 69 Icknield St, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England father = Alfred/Alice ----------------------------------------------- Picking up on the one born Stockingford.... her father is a coal miner, born in warwickshire, which eliminates that one.

Do you have any idea if there were other children apart from Elizabeth 1875??? Hard to decipher weather they would be in Durham, Warwickshire or Manchester!

Esta Thanks for you help anyway, I appreciate it. Lynne

thought you might :)...........I've had a good look but can see nothing obvious sorry..You could always try to find Elizabeth BC that wouldgive you both names ........Esta

Karen It's kind of you to spend time on this but I have all the details I need for Ann and Joseph Thomas Owen. It is Thomas and Elizabeth Parker I cannot find in 1881. Thanks Regards Lynne

Esta Thank you very much for your efforts but I do already have that marriage, 13 March 1864. Lynne

Found the marraige for Ann And Thomas......

Esta Sorry, getting my families mixed up, it was another family at No.4. Lynne

1881 - Ann and Joseph Owen were at 36/38 Lime Street with children Sarah,Fanny,James,Alice !

Yes Esta, No 4 I think! Lynne

Esta Which marriage, 1st or 2nd? I have all details of her first marriage etc as she was my GGGrandmother. Lynne

that's funny.....Lime Street is where Ann and her 'first' family were living in 1881 !

Sorry, I missed the most important bit!! LOL! 22 Lime Street, Miles Platting, Manchester. Lynne

All I've managed to find is Ann's first marriage(family) !!.......nothing obvious but still looking !!