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Oh my think I have found the John Thompson housholds but have lots of Bartholomews step children, how can this be ? Zoe x

Hi Guys, I have now recieved the birth cert for George Frederick, his father was John Thompson his occupation was a Steel melter, he was married to Annie Howard. They lived in sheffield 248 Dunlop Street in 1883 when George was born. I think I may have found them on the 1901 Census but it says there are step children ??? I have also found a marriage for them in Sheffield 1873. They are not on any other census records though. Any ideas Much appreciated Zoe x

How about this one for Mary Jarvis in 1901. Father Henry is Grain warehouse man Bertha M Jarvis abt 1895 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Nephew Daur Brightside Bierlow Yorkshire Eliza Jarvis abt 1892 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Nephew Daur Brightside Bierlow Yorkshire >> Henry Jarvis abt 1866 Wiltsworth, Lincolnshire, England Nephew Brightside Bierlow Yorkshire Jane Jarvis abt 1866 Killamarsh, Derbyshire, England Nephew Wife Brightside Bierlow Yorkshire John Jarvis abt 1849 Azbry, Lincolnshire, England Head Brightside Bierlow Yorkshire John H Jarvis abt 1900 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Nephew Son Brightside Bierlow Yorkshire Mabel Jarvis abt 1897 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Nephew Daur Brightside Bierlow Yorkshire >> Mary A Jarvis abt 1894 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Nephew Daur Brightside Bierlow Yorkshire

Hi there, Sorry been away for a few days. Right I have looked for the John & Florence and cant find anyone in th 1901 census, exept a John and also Mary e Thompson as inmates maybe they killed Florence only joking ! I have ordered a birth cert for George Frederick born 1883 Sheffield hopefully this is the right one. Thanks so much for your help. Also the Henry Jarvis I don't think is the right one as Mary Alice was only born abt 1893. Many thanks Zoe

Better not get carried away with this couple, they may not be connected at all - seems a big space before the first kiddie for then? Wonder if he was in army or something.

No sign of a dad. Florence, the mother is living with one son, John in her parents home. The two other boys, George and Frederick are living with aunts. But all in the same town. The names and dates fit well for the children of a man called John Thompson and there is a penchant for George and Frederick! If it were me, I would take the chance in looking for a marriage in about 1880 between Florence A Downes and a John Thompson. I was hoping to find the father and Florence on the 1881 but unfortunately she is a visitor on that and again, no husband.

1881 head plate layer ==Record Henry Jarvis abt 1849 Norton Le Clay, Yorkshire, England Head Sutton Howgrave, Sutton Howgrave, Yorkshire, England View Record Maria Jarvis abt 1858 Welford Rugby, Yorkshire, England Wife Sutton Howgrave, Sutton Howgrave, Yorkshire, England View Record Mary A. Jarvis abt 1880 Howgrave, Yorkshire, England Daughter Sutton Howgrave, Sutton Howgrave, Yorkshire, England could this be him? trouble is 1891 Mary is with grandparents then 1901 with her uncle Christopher

Was there father called John, I am not sure how to be certain this is the correct record. Thanks again for all your help. Zoe

What about this one?1891 View Record Thompson, Annie abt 1876 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Servant Ecclesall Bierlow Yorkshire View Record Thompson, Frederick abt 1887 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Nephew Ecclesall Bierlow Yorkshire View Record Thompson, George abt 1883 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Nephew Ecclesall Bierlow Yorkshire View Record Thompson, Maggie abt 1874 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Servant Ecclesall Bierlow Yorkshire Interestingly there is a John Thompson living with his mother Florence and her parents, the Downes family, in the same town. No sign of his dad.

His dad was not alive when he got married in 1915. Her dad was a warehouse man. Many thanks Zoe

What was his dads occupation?

I forgot to mention Mary Alice Jarvis father was Henry cant find him either. Thanks Zoe

Hi Guys, Right the marriage cert for George Frederick Thompson to Mary alice Jarvis arrived today it says he got married in Sheffield on 16/10/1915. It says he was 32 when he got married so I reckon he was born abt 1883, still cant find the b***** man. This man is haunting me, I go to sleep thinking about it and wake up the same. His father was called John Thompson. Any advice would be most appreciated. Thanks Zoe

Hi Pat thanks for replying, I know he died around 1928 but can't find his death or marriage any where. I have his son's marriage cert which states his name and deceased, so I know he was alive at some point but not sure where to find him. Thanks again Zoe

HI, I agree with Christine, You need to obtain the marriage certificate. If you search 1837 online you should find the reference for it. It costs a minimum of £5 for credits. If you then order the certificate (£7), That will have his age and there is a space for fathers name, You need to know what it written there. If he was raised by an adoptive father, maybe his name will be on there? Alternativley if you can locate his death, his age at death will be written in the reference, therefore you will not need to order the certificate. You then have more of a chance finding him in 1901 if you have his age, and hopefully fathers name. Pat

Hi Thanks for the replies, No I don't think he was a basket but hey who knows ? He married Mary Alice Jarvis in Sheffield I think around 1915-1920. I can't find a George Frederick Thompson on any of the Census living in Sheffield though. Its a strange thing this family research I will say that. Got me anyway, but it doesn't take much. Ha ha Thanks again Zoe :)

When/where did he marry Mary Alice Jarvis - do you have marriage cert already?

Hi zoe, are you sure this was not just a polite way in telling his son that ' Daddy' didnt know of his bio father.... meaning he was a bathbun... or bar-stuard... if you get my drift !!! In that case he might have his mothers maiden name on his birth cert. K x

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Hi Helen & Derbyshire Dancer, I don't hold much hope no and the info was from his son. His father told him he was found on a doorstep. I wasn't sure if there was anyway I could trace back because surely he would have had to have a birth cert to be married, which he was. Thanks Zoe