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I have a relative born Mary Jane Burton.................................................... She married Charles Matthews under that name, and for the birth of first child she was Mary Jane, by the next to birth to be registered she was Jane matthews (the name my nan knew her by)................................... Her husband Charles died in 1894, and she was soon with another man and 2 more daughters with him. When (if) she married this man would she of had to use her married name on the cert? My nan only knew possible surname of this man as Rixon (dont know spelling as iots only hearsay) .................................................................She then had 3 sons by 2nd 'husbands' brother................so would she be Rixon marrying Rixon?........................................................the certs Ive got for first family & her siblings are Paddington & Kensington

Dont expect anyone to solve it but the Mary Jane/Jane/Mary Burton/Matthews is driving me potty. ..........................and has been for years. Where (apart from the loony bin) do I go?

not sure what you mean by 'by the next birth registers'

sorry supposed to be next birth registered (ie on the next childs birth cert)

Did she reg the second childs birth? My paternal gran was Emma Anne but her second hubby called her Annie & he reg their daughter & put mums name as Annie because thats waht HE called her . When she married again the cert should say her married name formerly her maiden name. ie if she was mrs smith nee jones then she would marry as Smith formerly jones Shirley

Well Im not sure but I would think IF she filled in the details correctly each birth would have her married name at the time of each birth with her previous name/s in brackets saying formally.......(name)........Hope that makes sense. Suzanne

Just as a by word....I often see marriages where the surnames are the same and I dont think it was that uncommon to marry a brother if the husband died. Suzanne

Not sure if that works for births,but know if you marry for the third time the cert only states you surname at marriage & maiden name. Th e first marriage seems to get lost. This happened with my maternal gran who married three times. THe child she had by the third hubby only states her married name & maiden name .no ref to any former marriages on the birth cert Shirley

This is just one example: 1 Rixon Arthur Rixon Pancras.1b 227 Marriage 2 1918 2 Rixon Daisy M Rixon Pancras.1b 227 Marriage 2 1918 Suzanne

Thanks for all that input. I just wish I could be more certain of the name Rixon. It came from my great aunt and nan, who were told the stories by their mother, who was Mary Janes first child. I spent a long time looking for Mary Janes mother who they told me was called Kate McCarthy, and I found out to be Catherine McKenna. So memory & pronunciation may of distorted Rixon over the past 100 years!

What are the names of her other children maybe they could be found in the 1901 census and then you maybe able to find out the mothers new name if she has one - just an idea someone has probably tried this - if not worth a try. Zoe

Zoe ~thanks for your offer.I have tried to find her in both 1891 & 1901-unsucessfully. She was born 23/7/1871 in Jersey. In 1891 she was married to Charlews Matthews. With daughter Frances Jane Matthews b 11/6/1888 Paddington. The next daughter was Florence Elizabeth b 21/10/1889 Kensington. Florence was in St. Marys hospital for the 1891 census, but I have never found a trace of the other 3 family members By 1901 Charles was dead and this 3 girls were in an industrial school which I have traced. But I would so like to find Mary Jane & her new family- as she deserted the children from this marriage too. All I know is Bessie & Lily, and they were sent to Canada...........before Mary Jane moved onto 'husband' no.3 (no. 2's brother) and had 3 boys with him William, Thomas & Jack Have emailled you as well Zoe Lorna

Have you checked under Wrixon. There is a Miss Wrixon at my son's school

Thanks all suggestions appreciated

Hi was looking did find this don't know if its any help Name: Rixon, Bessie Elizabeth Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1905 District: Kensington County: Greater London London Middlesex Volume: 1a Page: 112 Have searched through marriages but they are not all complete it seems between 1894 and 1905. Will keep looking Zoe

And if the above message is on the right track these may help Name: Rixon, James Record Type:Births Quarter: March Year: 1900 District: Kensington County: Greater London London Middlesex Volume: 1a Page: 98 Name: Rixon, William Record Type:Births Quarter: December Year: 1895 District: Kensington County: Greater London London Middlesex Volume: 1a Page: 86 And this is the only Lily Rixon at that time Name: Rixon, Lily Record Type:Births Quarter: September Year: 1898 District: Hackney County: Greater London London Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 494 Zoe

Zoe...Lilly could be short for lilian: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1898 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rixon Lilian Miriam Kensington 1a 112 Suzanne Update: Looks like she either didnt marry her second man or went back to her ist married name: Hoping this is her third man's marriage: Surname, Forename, Spouse, District, Page no., Event, Quarter, Year 1 Matthews Mary J - Rixon Kensington.1a 347 Marriage 3rd quarter 1914 1 Rixon Charles - Matthews Kensington 1a 347 Marriage 3rd quarter 1914 Only trouble with this is I cant find any children with mothers maiden name Matthews. Found this birth: Surname, Forename, mothers maiden name, district, volume, page,quarter,year 1 Rixon Jack Rixon Chelsea.1a 485 Birth 4 1918

Hi Lorna Try getting creative with the spelling of Rixon. I have had trouble in the past and have found Cox spelt Coy when transcribed from the Census records and Fenwick spelt Ferencak. regards Anne-Marie

Hi Suzanne I know about the Lily/Lillian thing I forgot I was looking at someone elses family as my family there are many Lily's but that is their true name silly me. Nice bit of work there though I'm sure Lorna will be pleased Zoe :)

So really someone wants to try and find this Matthew and Charles Rixon in 1871 or 1881 looked in 1881based on info from 1901 and can't seem to find him Zoe