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he was obviously born in the same place as my 2 x Gr Grandmother, only she isn't dead yet, going on 157 now she is:)))) Carrie

Thanks again Carrie, well..................he married and died but I'm sure he wasn't born!!!!!! Jenny

Plaistow is too far away, its about 10 miles away, Grays, Romford, Hornchurch, Ockenden are all neighbouring each other

Picking up on Reggie's tip then(thanks for checking 1837), is Plaistow anywhere near Grays as have found a family on 1901 all born Grays except the William who is shown as born Plaistow? Jenny

Gerry from Kent, I have been doing this for 3 years now and have picked up a lot of useful info on the way - glad you liked the website tip! :-) Cheers, Horatia

The births on Ancestry do not include JAS 1897.......I've looked on 1837. There is no birth registered in that quarter for William G Kirby ...........anywhere! Reg

Horatia Thanks very much for that info about registration districts................ I was only thinking the other day how useful that would be on occasions! Ta Gerry

Yes, you have to keep an open mind with family history research otherwise you can go wrong. Cheers, Horatia

Jenny I know you say the death cert gives his birthplace as Grays.....but that is because the person who was the 'informant' gave those details. Unless he or she had access to the birth cert, it could be that he/she was only relaying info passed down by someone else.......so there is room for error. The same applies to the date of birth.......... Reg

You need a lot of determination with family history - but by god if you find that entry you will get a tremendous buzz - especially if you found it yourself. Good Luck! Cheers, Horatia

Am trying that now but cannot find him (and have been for the past hour which is why I resorted to theboards to stop me from going around the bend!!! ) Jenny

I wonder if he was mistakenly registered as Kerby or Kerbey? Have you checked on the FREE BMD indexes on Ancestry they cover 1837 - 1983. Cheers, Horatia

Thanks Horatia.

Use this website for registration districts: http://www(.)fhsc.org.uk/genuki/REG/ess.htm (Remove Brackets) Orsett Created 1st July 1837. Sub-districts : Grays; Orsett. GRO volumes : XII (1837-51); 4a (1852-1930). Aveley, Bulpham, Canvey Island (1837-81), Chadwell St. Mary, Corringham, East Tilbury, Fobbing, Grays Thurrock, Horndon on the Hill, Langdon Hills, Little Thurrock, Mucking, North Ockendon, Orsett, South Ockendon, Stanford le Hope, Stifford, West Thurrock, West Tilbury. Registers now divided between Castle Point & Rochford and Havering districts.

Thanks Carrie, Jenny

Jenny i know the area and what I supplied is as near as you can get., you might want to track his marriage certificate also to find his fathers name, do you know roughly when he married and her name? Carrie:)

Carrie, do you know the registration district which would cover Grays by any chance plse?? jenny

Possible I suppose June, thanks, Jenny

Ranked Search Results - 1901 England Census View Record Elizabeth Clark abt 1834 Hertfordshire, England Visitor St Mary Berkshire View Record Ellen M Kirby abt 1872 Tonbridge, Kent, England Wife St Mary Berkshire View Record Nellie J Kirby abt 1895 Reading, Berkshire, England Daughter St Mary Berkshire View Record Peter Kirby abt 1872 Shinfield, Berkshire, England Head St Mary Berkshire View Record William G Kirby abt 1897 Reading, Berkshire, England Son St Mary Berkshire View Record Daniel Light abt 1879 Great Cheverell, Wiltshire, England Visitor St Mary Berkshire 1901 England Census Record about William G Kirby Name: William G Kirby Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1897 Relation: Son Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Reading, Berkshire, England Civil parish: St Mary Ecclesiatical parish: Greyfriars County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Source information: RG13/1147 Registration district: Reading Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Folio: 74 Page: 43 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 241 What about this one in Greyfrairs June

Sorry Esta didn't make it very clear, death cert shows born in Grays. jenny