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Hi Ann So sorry, just seen your post. Yes any help would be much appreciated. He could of easily gone over the boarder to England and the accident is just a myth! We never know! Thanks again Lynn

Hi Donna, Yes, I think I'm going to have to do that. See what they come up with. I'm off on hol's tomorrow so I'll do it when I get back...good luck in your search. Kind regards Lynn

Morning Lynn, We really are in the same boat going just by family recollections told to them years ago. I think if there was an accident and if full details of John Morton were not known at the time by the informant of the death then it could be very costly for you to trawl through ScotlandsPeople to get the right death cert. His age could be assumed, you may not have the right parents names...or no parents at all listed...I've got one of those certs where it tells you nothing more than you already knew...very frustrating..lol! If I were in your position I'd be inclined to get in contact with the North Ayrshire Library, email address was in an earlier reply of mine, as they will do a very thorough search for £15.00......money which could be easily lost on a few incorrect searches on ScotlandsPeople....as I've found out in the past. That £15.00 covers one family name, so you could give the siblings details as that may provide a lead for them. When I wrote to them, as I have several brickwalls in the Saltcoats area, they confirmed that they will look at local papers and 'any other records deemed appropriate to the search'. I'm just working out which one to go for first...OH would go loopy if I sent a bulk cheque....little & often me thinks! Wishing you lots of luck. Donna x

Hi Donna, Nope, haven't a clue. Only have his DOB. Have his parents and his sibblings. His sister is my Grandmother, she adopted my mum. When my mum's adoptive parents died she was still quiet young so she went into foster care, hence why no one knows anything. It's been a challenge!!! lol Lynn

HI Lynn, I do feel for you, I've another gx2grandfather who apparently went to England for work and all we've got to go on is a marriage cert...he's not appeared in England or Scotland at the right times and we've yet to find a death that matches. Do you know if John was buried? If so, where he was likely to be buried? You could ask for a NBI (National Burial Index) check on all John Mortons. Do you have a rough age of when he died? I'm guessing it was teens onwards.....as you've not said it was a childhood accident, therefore, you'd be looking at 1910 or so onwards. I'm not sure if Scotland is covered by the NBI. Can you remember if any member of family had to be the informant of the death? Also why John was in Saltcoats....did he live/work there? Sorry to ask so many questions, it's just one of them might give a pointer to help you further. Donna x

Hi, Found it and downloaded it but it wasn't him. Wrong birth date and year..mystery continues. Thanks for your help Lynn

Hi Lyla, Thanks for that. Just been on the web site for the first time....where do I start lol? Kind regards Lynn

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Hi Donna, No unfortunately it wasn't him.....oh well the mystery continues! Regards lynn

Hi All, Brilliant, will try that out. Thanks ever so much Lynn

Hi Lynn, Just had a quick look on ScotlandPeople website, there are only 3 John Mortons born in 1892 who died between 1892 and 1955. If the informant didn't know exact YOB, I popped in the same search but with a YOB of 1890-1894, this gives 21 matches. However, by popping in the County of Ayr in the search, there is only one John Morton born 1892 who died between 1892 and 1955 whose death was registered in that area. Might be worth paying £6 to go on the website and if he is your one then you can also download the certificate. Fingers crossed he's yours. Donna x p.s, as for a newspaper cutting you could try www(.)archive-scotsman(.)com It's £7.95 for 24 hours access but has every issue of the Scotsman from 1817 - 1950. I haven't used it myself but my gx2 grandfather drowned in a shipping accident in the Clyde and they had a very detailed report on it which one of the GR members kindly found for me....but I did know his date of death, don't know if that helped in their search. x

Lynn FWIW I had a quick look through English death records from 1900 to 1920 and there are no matches. Will look at other years if that would be helpful. Anne

hi, Yes I know his date of birth (see 1st post). Thanks for that. I'll check them out. Thanks ever so much Regards Lynn

Hi Lynn, If the accident did happen in Saltcoats then you could contact the North Ayrshire Library's local history dept on localhistory(that funny at sign which it's not allowing me to put on)north-ayrshire(.)gov(.)uk (remember to remove the brackets). They charge £15.00 for a thorough search on a family name and that includes newpaper cuttings from the Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald, 1857 to present. Alternatively there is a website that covers Saltcoats, Ardrossan and Stevenston - www(.)threetowners(.)com They have a forum on there and someone may be able to help on that. Also on ScotlandsPeople, if you do know his year of birth, you can pop that in and it may narrow down your search considerably. Good luck Donna x

Georgia, I checked what I believed to be every death in records office in Scotland for him..maybe it was England? Chinese whispers! lol Lynn

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Hi, True. There was an old aunt who told my mums cousin...but you never know. Not sure when it happened but it was believed to be of some cliffs in Saltcoats? Regards Lynn

Family rumour is not the same as fact. Perhaps the accident wasn't in Scotland, or at a different time?

Hi Georgina, No sorry I don't have a clue. I only know his birth date and his parents (who I've named in the first message). I have his sibblings. There's 8 of them and I have there births and deaths....this one is stopping me sleeping lol Regards Lynn

Do you have any idea of how old he was when he died? On scotlands people there are 263 John Morton's who died between 1892-1955, did he have a middle name? Georgina.