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Hi, I've looked and looked and looked. I've also been up to Edingburgh's record office but can not find a death. His name is John Morton born 12th April 1892 in Glasgow. His parents were William Morton and Margaret Edwards. The family rumour is that he died from a diving accident in Scotland. Any help would be gratefully received. Kind regards Lynn

Hi Lyn Something of this nature would have been reported in a newspaper........would a library in the area he died have access to such records? Deborah

Hi Deborah, That is what I thought but back then, maybe it would have only been small print? Maybe he died while the first world war was on so didn't make it? I've done some searches but nothing has come out of it. I also went through every death certificate for John Morton but nothing that matched..... Regards Lynn

Do you have any idea of how old he was when he died? On scotlands people there are 263 John Morton's who died between 1892-1955, did he have a middle name? Georgina.

Hi Georgina, No sorry I don't have a clue. I only know his birth date and his parents (who I've named in the first message). I have his sibblings. There's 8 of them and I have there births and deaths....this one is stopping me sleeping lol Regards Lynn

Family rumour is not the same as fact. Perhaps the accident wasn't in Scotland, or at a different time?

Hi, True. There was an old aunt who told my mums cousin...but you never know. Not sure when it happened but it was believed to be of some cliffs in Saltcoats? Regards Lynn

Push, nudge, nudge wink wink

Georgia, I checked what I believed to be every death in records office in Scotland for him..maybe it was England? Chinese whispers! lol Lynn

Hi Lynn, If the accident did happen in Saltcoats then you could contact the North Ayrshire Library's local history dept on localhistory(that funny at sign which it's not allowing me to put on)north-ayrshire(.)gov(.)uk (remember to remove the brackets). They charge £15.00 for a thorough search on a family name and that includes newpaper cuttings from the Ardrossan and Saltcoats Herald, 1857 to present. Alternatively there is a website that covers Saltcoats, Ardrossan and Stevenston - www(.)threetowners(.)com They have a forum on there and someone may be able to help on that. Also on ScotlandsPeople, if you do know his year of birth, you can pop that in and it may narrow down your search considerably. Good luck Donna x

hi, Yes I know his date of birth (see 1st post). Thanks for that. I'll check them out. Thanks ever so much Regards Lynn

Lynn FWIW I had a quick look through English death records from 1900 to 1920 and there are no matches. Will look at other years if that would be helpful. Anne

Hi Lynn, Just had a quick look on ScotlandPeople website, there are only 3 John Mortons born in 1892 who died between 1892 and 1955. If the informant didn't know exact YOB, I popped in the same search but with a YOB of 1890-1894, this gives 21 matches. However, by popping in the County of Ayr in the search, there is only one John Morton born 1892 who died between 1892 and 1955 whose death was registered in that area. Might be worth paying £6 to go on the website and if he is your one then you can also download the certificate. Fingers crossed he's yours. Donna x p.s, as for a newspaper cutting you could try www(.)archive-scotsman(.)com It's £7.95 for 24 hours access but has every issue of the Scotsman from 1817 - 1950. I haven't used it myself but my gx2 grandfather drowned in a shipping accident in the Clyde and they had a very detailed report on it which one of the GR members kindly found for me....but I did know his date of death, don't know if that helped in their search. x

Hi All, Brilliant, will try that out. Thanks ever so much Lynn

Hi Donna, No unfortunately it wasn't him.....oh well the mystery continues! Regards lynn

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Hi Lyla, Thanks for that. Just been on the web site for the first time....where do I start lol? Kind regards Lynn

Hi, Found it and downloaded it but it wasn't him. Wrong birth date and year..mystery continues. Thanks for your help Lynn

HI Lynn, I do feel for you, I've another gx2grandfather who apparently went to England for work and all we've got to go on is a marriage cert...he's not appeared in England or Scotland at the right times and we've yet to find a death that matches. Do you know if John was buried? If so, where he was likely to be buried? You could ask for a NBI (National Burial Index) check on all John Mortons. Do you have a rough age of when he died? I'm guessing it was teens onwards.....as you've not said it was a childhood accident, therefore, you'd be looking at 1910 or so onwards. I'm not sure if Scotland is covered by the NBI. Can you remember if any member of family had to be the informant of the death? Also why John was in Saltcoats....did he live/work there? Sorry to ask so many questions, it's just one of them might give a pointer to help you further. Donna x

Hi Donna, Nope, haven't a clue. Only have his DOB. Have his parents and his sibblings. His sister is my Grandmother, she adopted my mum. When my mum's adoptive parents died she was still quiet young so she went into foster care, hence why no one knows anything. It's been a challenge!!! lol Lynn