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pushing the boundaries a bit... needs confirming wih a birth cert of one of the children no rationale for being Abshy D/L Z either! View Record Isaac Setchell 1848 Oct-Nov-Dec Ashby De La Zouch Derbyshire, Leicestershire View Record Anne Smith 1848 Oct-Nov-Dec Ashby De La Zouch Derbyshire, Leicestershire

Births Jun 1873 Setchell Ernest George Luton 3b 453 AND Marriages Jun 1892 SETCHELL Ernest George Luton 3b 842

if she had Georgiana in 1851 and was only born in 1835 herself, she either married very young or didnt! will have a look but i dont hold out much hope

Tried looking for an Ann Setchell from Oxford in 51 & 41 there are none thats what made me believe she married a Setchell before the 51 Census or at least took the fathers name, she went on to have 9 Setchell children the youngest of whom is my ex husbands great grandfather that was in 1873 so guess thats the certificate to send for once I have saved up!! Thanks for all your help once again - you really are great

Hi everyone - sorry I was looking for marriages in Coventry where is Dewsbury?? Ann Setchell said she was born in Oxfordshire on all 4 census I found & in 3 of them said Chipping Norton so I do not think it is the same one as the one born in Bedford

I found Oliver marriage before OLIVER SETCHELL Male Family Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: CHARLES SETCHELL Family Marriages: Spouse: MARY ANN GODDARD Family Marriage: 12 APR 1884 Saint Mary, Luton, Bedford, England Husband Age at Marriage: 24 Wife Age at Marriage: 21

Now i think i have completely lost the plot! 1851 Name: Charles Setchell Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Grandson Mother's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Bedford, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Bedford St Paul Town: Bedford County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Registration district: Bedford Sub-registration district: Bedford and Cardington ED, institution, or vessel: 3a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 188 Household Members: Name Age View Record Eliza Adder abt 1845 Bedford, Bedfordshire, England Visitor Bedford St Paul Bedfordshire View Record Lovell Adder abt 1825 Shefford, Bedfordshire, England Visitor Bedford St Paul Bedfordshire Ann Setchell Thomas, Sarah abt 1824 Bedford, Bedfordshire, England Daughter Bedford St Paul Bedfordshire Charles Setchell Ann abt 1841 Bedford, Bedfordshire, England Grandson Bedford St Paul Bedfordshire Mary Setchell Thomas, Sarah abt 1822 Bedford, Bedfordshire, England Daughter Bedford St Paul Bedfordshire Sarah Setchell Thomas abt 1792 Bedford, Bedfordshire, England Wife Bedford St Paul Bedfordshire Thomas Setchell Sarah abt 1790 Keysoe, Bedfordshire, England Head Bedford St Paul Bedfordshire Mary Smitt abt 1775 Bedford, Bedfordshire, England Head Bedford St Paul Bedfordshire

Isaac Dixie 1847 Oct-Nov-Dec Bedford Bedfordshire Catharine Setchell 1847 Oct-Nov-Dec Bedford Bedfordshire Pooh! think i have just blown my own theory! 1851- no kids with them! Name: Isaac Dixie Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Catherine Gender: Male Where born: Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Bedford St Paul County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Bedford Sub-registration district: Bedford and Cardington ED, institution, or vessel: 3d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 206 Household Members: Name Age Catherine Dixie 31 Isaac Dixie 30

Hi Jess thats great we never found Georginas before but someone found a mattiage for Oliver which also had a Charles as the father - but where is Charles!!

NOPE we havent Pickering were LODGERS. Why not BUY the birth certificate for one of her children??? If a father is not recorded then Jess is right the woman was NEVER married,

wonder if this has any bearing on anything (my thought, Georgiana used the name of her step-father + bro as dad?) 1861 Name: Charles Setchell Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Stepson Mother's name: Catherine Gender: Male Where born: Bedford, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Bedford St Paul Town: Bedford County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Registration district: Bedford Sub-registration district: Bedford and Cardington ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Household Members: Name Age Catherine Dixie Isaac abt 1821 Bedford, Bedfordshire, England Wife Bedford St Paul Bedfordshire Isaac Dixie Catherine abt 1821 Bedford, Bedfordshire, England Head Bedford St Paul Bedfordshire charles Setchell Catherine abt 1841 Bedford, Bedfordshire, England Stepson Bedford St Paul Bedfordshire

Hi Jess thanks for that jog Mary Pickering was with her in 1861 and in 1841 I found Mary with daughter Ann - so looks like I am looking for a marriage for Ann Pickering to ?? Setchell Georgina was born in Coventry in 1951 when Ann was only 16!! Anyone find a marriage??

COULD this be Ann in 1851 she is a BONNET SEWER........and noted on latter census's she is a Bonnet MAKER: 1851 England Census Record about Ann Setchell Name: Ann Setchell Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Thomas Mother's name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Bedford, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Bedford St Paul Town: Bedford County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Registration district: Bedford Sub-registration district: Bedford and Cardington ED, institution, or vessel: 3a Household schedule number: 188 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Adder 6 Lovell Adder 26 >>>>Ann Setchell 27 Charles Setchell 10 Mary Setchell 29 Sarah Setchell 59 Thomas Setchell 61

Could this be the Georgiana recorded in 1861: Births Dec 1851 SETCHELL Georgeana Dewsbury 22 111

did we find this before? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GEORGIANA SETCHELL Female Family Parents: Father: CHARLES ISAAC SETCHELL Family Marriages: Spouse: JOSEPH CRAMP Family Marriage: 15 MAR 1875 All Saints, Leighton Buzzard, Bedford, England Husband Age at Marriage: 25 Wife Age at Marriage: 25

1861 Name: Ellen Setchell Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Dunstable, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Luton Town: Luton County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Registration district: Luton Sub-registration district: Luton ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 97 Household Members: Name Age Ann Setchell abt 1835 Oxfordshire, England Head Luton Bedfordshire Ellen Setchell Ann abt 1859 Dunstable, Bedfordshire, England Daughter Luton Bedfordshire Fredk Setchell Ann abt 1860 Luton, Bedfordshire, England Son Luton Bedfordshire Georgiana Setchell Ann abt 1851 Coventry Daughter Luton Bedfordshire Rose Ann Setchell Ann abt 1857 Dunstable, Bedfordshire, England Daughter Luton Bedfordshire

Thought we decided, even though she says she was married, that in fact she never was? wasn't she at home with mum and dad Setchell in earlier census?

Have you tried obtaining a birth certificate for any of her children to see if a father is listed....this looks good for Oliver: Births Mar 1861 Setchell Oliver Frederick Luton 3b 408

1891 - in Luton Amey Setchel 54 Ern Setchel 19 Frank Setchel 28 Hary Setchel 26 Jessey Setchel 20 Samuel Worman 25

In 1881 118 New Town St, Luton Ann Setchill 47 Ernest Setchill 8 Frank Setchill 18 Henry Setchill 16 Mary Ell. Setchill 10 Oliver Setchill 21