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Edward Dwyer married Catherine Martin in Manchester c 1870. Within 2 years Catherine and their baby daughter Margaret had both died and he eventually remarried, to Eva Sullivan. I cannot find the exact marriage dates though? On the usual site it gives an Edward Dwyer in Jan 1870, and on a separate page Catherine Martin in 1870, but on those respective pages there are either more mens names than womens, or vice versa - and guess whose I can't find? Could anyone please help? Thank you i anticipation, Eunice :-)

Hi Eunice
Assuming this is the entry you mean, there are actually the right number of males/females as Joseph Ashton has been added incorrectly:

Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%)
Ashton Joseph Ashton 8d 571
CONNOR Joseph Manchester 8d 571
Cummings Ellen Manchester 8d 571
DWYER Edward Manchester 8d 571
Somerville Bridget Manchester 8d 571

Jan

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1870
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
DWYER Edward MARTIN Catherine Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Archives+, Manchester Central Library

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi

I see what you mean though! Ref number is actually a match as it says 571 on image.
Must be them surely?

Name: Catherine Martin
Registration Year: 1870
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Manchester

Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 57

Sarah Clough
Mary Alice Gilbody
James Hunt
John Leary
Catherine Martin
Leana Rogaliner

(freebmd) Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%)

MARTIN Catherine Manchester 8d 57_

On the Anc image it is 571

oh crumbs! Thanks Jean, but thats confused me (even more than I normally am :-) ) as on the 1871 census they are living with her mum who is Margaret Martin …. mmmm back to the drawing board, maybe! ;-)

Looks like the trancsriber couldn't read the page nos
Marriages Mar 1870
MARTIN Catherine Manchester 8d 57-

ooh just seen the above whilst typing 1st reply! Thats interesting! Thank you!

Edward Dwyer
England and Wales, Marriage Registration Index
Name: Edward Dwyer
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1870
Registration District: Manchester
County: Lancashire
Event Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Volume: 8D
Page: 571
Line Number: 222

Edward Dwyer probably married one of the following people
Name: Joseph Connor
Name: Ellen Cummings
Name: Catherine Martin
Name: Annie Pickford

Well that looks like them, so thank you all as ever for a speedy response and help! Much appreciated. <3

the only marriage for a dwyer and sullivan is this one her name is mary

Marriages Dec 1874 (>99%)
DREW James Prestwich 8d 838
Dwyer Edward Prestwich 8d 838
Sullivan Mary Prestwich 8d 838
Wood Frances Prestwich 8d 838

This is the entry in question:

Marriages Mar 1870
MARTIN Catherine Manchester 8d 57_

It's clear the transcriber was unable to complete this transcription, but the image actually says the page is 571. I've subm'd a correction to FreeBMD

In a couple of months, when FreeBMD approve my correction, she'll be put along with:

Marriages Mar 1870 (>99%)
Ashton Joseph Ashton 8d 571
CONNOR Joseph Manchester 8d 571
Cummings Ellen Manchester 8d 571
DWYER Edward Manchester 8d 571
Somerville Bridget Manchester 8d 571

Eunice's pairing is correct - see http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1870
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
DWYER Edward MARTIN Catherine Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Archives+, Manchester Central Library MCR_RM/71/181

looks like them in 1871 census





Edward Dwyer
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name: Edward Dwyer
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Relationship to Head of Household: Son-In-Law
Birthplace: Ireland
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Manchester
Sub-District: Ancoats
Parish: Manchester
County: Lancashire
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Margaret Martin Head F 50 Ireland
Edward Dwyer Son-In-Law M 24 Ireland
Catherine Dwyer Daughter F 24 Manchester
Margaret Ann Dwyer Daughter F 0 Manchester

1871 Census

Name: Edward Chayer
[Edward Dwyer]
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son-in-law
Spouse's Name: Catherine Chayer
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: All Souls
Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Household schedule number: 96
Piece: 4032
Folio: 69
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Martin 30
Edward Chayer 24
Catherine Chayer 24
Margaret Ann Chayer 3 Months

Can't find him for sure after though!

Jude

Ha ha Yvonne - SNAP!

Jude

1881

Name: Edward Dwyer
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary Dwyer
Gender: Male
Where born: Kilkenny, Ireland
Civil Parish: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 33 Monsall St
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Slater
Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4003
Folio: 114
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Dwyer 35
Mary Dwyer 26
Margaret A. Dwyer 3
John Dwyer 1


Possibly 1891

Name: Edward Dwyer
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Dwyer
Gender: Male
Where born: Kilkenny, Ireland
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Oswald
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3249
Folio: 66
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Dwyer 44
Mary Dwyer 35
John Dwyer 11
Margaret Dwyer 13
Ellen Dwyer 9
Joseph Dwyer 4
Edmond Dwyer 1
Thos Wm Sheperson 19
John Hyde 24

To fit with marriage to Mary Sullivan

If the above are correct he's dead by 1901

Name: Edmund Dwyer
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Mother: Mary Dwyer
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester Albert Memorial
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3753
Folio: 166
Page Number: 10
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Dwyer 46
Margaret E Dwyer 23
John Dwyer 21
Ellen Dwyer 19
Joseph Dwyer 14
Edmund Dwyer 11
Alice Dwyer 9
Leo F Dwyer 6

and 1911

Mary dead by then?

Name: Leo Dwyer
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: North Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 17 Lilley St Miles Platting Mer
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Shop Assistant
Registration district: Prestwich
Registration District Number: 467
Sub-registration district: Newton Heath
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 24267
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Dwyer 32
Alice Dwyer 19
Leo Dwyer 16
John McManes 27

Jude