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to ann Cardiff
BABE of the record you talked about fred west, and like I said I have been researching the bakers for years you would have seen films about the clampets the real backwood people in remote mountain areas in USA that's where the bakers come from word comes to mind INBRED I have been to much marcle met some and from remarks I put on ancestry/find my past I have had some great replys
I don't like the bakers I have only researched them so I know what im about, but I am related to them thro caroline baker , so what??? :-D
john harper

hi everyone who gave me help I would like to tell this lady to shove it but I am too old and my wife always says GET MORE MANNERS she lives ithink almost next door to a BMDreg office cos I asked her to see if she could find Thomas summers/somers mum/dad he was b ledbury 1802 this lady I think is not marr and her sister that she say lives with her she don't arf get mad if I say something agan her any way ann, Christine, Jacqueline thank you for your help
this lucy that gave birth to Edwin where the hell did she come from,i have been researching the bakers for 10/12 years and never had a lucy
kind regards
john harper

whenever I hear Much Marcle - I always think of Fred West, the serial killer - he lived there

thanks for the "babe" bit, long time since I've been called that :-D

Christine
henry john summers thought he was gods gift to womanhood he was my g/g dad he was a liar/coward and genraly a sh-t hated by 99% of his family died in the 1920s leeds left his daug gertude with his dad in law felix be cause after his wife d 1888 felixs daug caroline felix he started a little war on the summers 75%of them left much marclc/ledbury area, when he diedwithin 4 miles of him lived his three children 2 of which were marr and had kids my g/dad his dad was marr he had 2 girls[1 was my mum] he is buried in a paurpers grave in leeds.
Christine
henry john was a big fellow and worked on farms around ledbury sometimes with felix who was also a labourer I think that's how he got to know caroline henry marr caroline 1884 I always thought Edward[Edwin] was also henry johns kid
WHEN I PHONED USA UP TO TALK TO GERTRUDES DAUG A WHILE AGO I AM SURE SHE SAID HER MUM IN 1926 said I AM SAILIN TO ENGLAND TO SEE MY BROTHER.now gertude never knew she had henry albert my g/dadas a brother not til labout 1954/5
gertude went to shirehamton to see edwin

ann Cardiff
hi babe long time as you know I do not let go till I know and over these past 2/3 weeks I feel something is not right here its what I call a gut feeling I am bl--dy sure I am right.mary ann pocknell m edwin1902 ledbury.
much marcle is about 10 miles from ledbury

I'm still a bit confused with this:

"henry albert b 1885 when henry john summers marr caroline baker 1884 he was also the father of Gertrude so I thought he was also edwins dad".

IF I have found the right baptism for Edwin (?) his mother was named as LUCY.

Have I got my wires crossed?

I feel you're correct - Edwin Thomas is not yours

Name: Edwin Baker
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1902
Registration District: Ledbury
County: Herefordshire
Event Place: Ledbury, Herefordshire, England
Volume: 6A
Page: 795
Line Number: 31


Edwin Baker probably married one of the following people

Name: Mary Ann Pocknell

?????????

Name: Edwin Thomas Baker
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1876
Registration District: Ross
County: Herefordshire
Event Place: Ross, Herefordshire, England
Volume: 6A
Page: 484
Line Number: 300

???

Record_ID: 350986
Entry_Number:
Year: 1877
Month: May
Day: 3
Parents_Surname: BAKER
Child_Forenames: Edwin
Fathers_Forenames: Not Stated
Mothers_Forenames: Lucy
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Much Marcle
Occupation: [not stated]
Officiating_Minister: W. Becker
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AG 56/7
Page_Number: 70
Parish_Chapel: Much Marcle
Soundex: B260

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Jacqueline
I am [I think 90%right] he is my g/uncle and I don't give monkeys about him. Why because there is 3 of them Edwin 1877,gertude 1880 and my g/dad henry albert 1885.
Gertude ran away and went to USA, Edwin marr ledbury 1902 and I hope had good life went down to shirehampton both of them were born out of wedlock, henry albert b 1885 when henry john summers marr caroline baker 1884 he was also the father of Gertrude so I thought he was also edwins dad, but I said this to the lady and she said I was wrong, there father henry john was a ladies man marr 3 times before he died, I did not know a great deal about Edwin but reread some letters Gertrude sent to my mum and she came in 1926 with her 2 children to see her brother at shirehamton her other brother henry albert live in leeds with wife and 2 girls she never came to see g/dad they did meet 1954 he went to USA to see her

Much Marcle is in LEDBURY district

The birth of Edwin Thomas was registered in ROSS

The sister

Births Dec 1880 (>99%)
BAKER Gertrude Ledbury 6a 439

Unfortunately. there is no record of a birth for Edw* in Ledbury district in the right year

Ask the other person to provide proof of her assertions

I hope that one of you has looked for a marriage (or early death) for Edwin THOMAS Baker

No second forename on marriage record


Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)

Baker Edwin Ledbury 6a 795
Pocknell Mary Ann Ledbury 6a 795

If you are convinced you have the right man, why worry about what someone else thinks

b 1877 out of wedlock living at much marcle, Herefordshire, he was with his sister Gertrude edwin [ Edward] living with with his g/dad felix g/ mum mary, in 1891/1901 census he is called Edwin he marr in 1902 ledbury to a lady call mary ann pocknell and move to Gloucestershire they have 3 girls the all mar an 2 of them have children.
on the other side of the coin there is a Edwin Thomas baker b 1876 b ross Herefordshire, I am having a talk to a lady who say that Edwin Thomas is the man that marr mary ann pocknell I say no its not, I am in touch with 2 of his g/children now in there late 70s early 80s they say he was not called Edwin Thomas just called Edwin, but this lady incistes I am very wrong and she is right can you nice ladies help please,
DONT say get a birth cert which my prove one of us is right its just a little upset not worth spending £8/9 on