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24 Nov 2014 02:05 |
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Hi guys I have a Sarah Chalk Warren born 1821 in Margaretting England in my tree, her parents are John Chalk Warren and Mary Anne Bowerman. I am looking for her marriage, the family search gives me two men 1. William Barker 2. John Hicks King Can someone please look up in Ancestry.com to find the right man please, I did have someone tell me that this Sarah died the same year as her birth but Im rechecking thanks. Jill :-)
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SylviaInCanada
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24 Nov 2014 03:51 |
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this is the marriage registration for Sarah Chalk Warren ..................
es. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Sarah Chalk Warren
Name: Sarah Chalk Warren Registration Year: 1845 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Chelmsford Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Essex Volume: 12 Page: 97 Records on Page:
William Barker John Hicks King Caroline Rowe Sarah Chalk Warren
4 names to the page, she married EITHER John Hicks King OR William Barker
The public family trees on ancestry.co.uk have her married to William Barker ...........................
but you have to find better proof than ancestry trees :-)
I'll see what I can find
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SylviaInCanada
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24 Nov 2014 04:05 |
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Sarah C Barker in 1851
1851Census
Name: Sarah C Barker Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Barker Gender: Female Where born: Margaretting, Essex, England Civil Parish: Great Baddow Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Essex Country: England
Registration district: Chelmsford Sub-registration district: Writtle ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Household schedule number: 86 Piece: 1776 Folio: 487 Page Number: 20
William Barker 31 b.ca 1820, Rettendon, Essex, Labourer Sarah C Barker 30 Henry Barker 2 William Barker 5 Mo James Barker 24 b.ca 1827, Rettendon, Brother
and in 1861...............
1861 Census
Name: Sarah Barker Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: 1821 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Barker Gender: Female Where born: Margaretting, Essex, England Civil Parish: Springfield County/Island: Essex Country: England
Registration district: Chelmsford Sub-registration district: Great Baddow ED, institution, or vessel: 4d
Household schedule number: 143 Piece: 1082 Folio: 60 Page Number: 23
William Barker 40 Sarah Barker 40 William Barker 10 Charlotte Barker 8 Sarah Barker 5
I think thta's pretty conclusive that she married William Barker!
I can't find John Hicks King on the 1851 Census with Carolyn ................. but there is another marriage record for him in 1852, so maybe Carolyn died very soon after the marriage
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Stephen
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24 Nov 2014 04:36 |
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Thanks for your help Sylviain I will have a good look at what you found thanks again. Jill
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Chris Ho :)
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24 Nov 2014 07:43 |
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National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) SARAH CHALK Last name BARKER Birth year 1821 Death year 1900 Age 79 Burial year 1900 Burial day 6 Burial month 1 Place CAMBRIDGE Church description ST PAUL Church denomination ANGLICAN County Cambridgeshire
Deaths Mar 1900 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------------- Barker Sarah Chalk 79 Chesterton 3b 355
(not sure if above matches!)
Chris :)
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(from St. Paul Cambridge. Parish cd, address for above, of Ashover Terrace, Cherry Hinton Road)
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Stephen
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24 Nov 2014 08:25 |
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Thanks Chris for the extra info its given me more to work on thanks again. Jill
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Jacqueline
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24 Nov 2014 10:56 |
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A little tip, for future searches, Stephen, where the names are fairly unusual
Just enter the forenames on freebmd, and click 'find'
There wouldn't be too many results for 'Sarah Chalk'.
Of course, this particular 'trick' doesn't work after 1911
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27 Nov 2014 08:25 |
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C&Pd from your other thread.........
Hi Genes members, In my last thread about the Warren family you were all very helpful, but now I have another plee for help. I have a Lucy French Warren born about 1821 and dies 1845c, I have her marrying a George Lince August 11th 1839, and I have her father as a William Warren, I was given this marriage certificate, so Im trying to find out where in my Warren family she belongs. I know she does but trying to find where. On the marriage certificate the witnesses were Sarah Chalk Warren and a William Warren so as in my last thread I was asking who Sarah Chalk Warren married and you came to the rescue, as Sarah signed Lucy's marriage cert. Im trying to place her in the tree, can someone please look in ancestry to see if anyone has her in their tree so I can complete this family, I know it sounds confusing thanks. JillI
According to a tree on Ancestry.........William Warren's second wife was Mary French.
Details of William's Will..........
This is the last Will and Testament of me William Warren of Margaretting in the County of Essex Yeoman I appoint my adopted Son William Warren and my Brother Thomas Warren Executors of this my Will. I give to my said son the sum of fifty pounds out of the share to which I am entitled under my late father's will and also all my cloathes and wearing apparel and the bedstead bed and furniture which belonged to his late mother. I give to my adopted daughter Lucy the wife of George Lince the sum of fifty pounds also out of the share to which I am entitled as aforesaid for her sole and separate use and to be paid to her at such times and in such manner as as she shall independently of her said husband direct. And I give and bequeath all other my personal estate and effects whatsoever unto my wife Mary absolutely. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand this seventh day of March one thousand eight hundred and forty-one. William Warren signed and declared by the said William Warren the Testator as and for his last Will and Testament in the presence of us present at the same time who in his presence at his request and in the presence of each other have hereunto subscribed our names as witnesses... Mary Lince of Margaretting...Frederick J Veley of Chelmsford....
PROVED on the 22nd day of May 1857 before the Reverend David Bowker Wells Clerk Surrogate by the oath of Thomas Warren the surviving executor to whom admon &c was granted he being first sworn duly to administer Under £200.
Marriage to Mary French 1827 12 Dec Age: 30 St Margaret's Margaretting Essex marriage by banns Mary French spinster William Warren widower both of this parish witnesses Samuel Warren and Ann Warren
Checking out the tree on Ancestry........it seems that William Warren is the Brother of John Chalk Warren, who's daughter Sarah Chalk Warren married William Barker.
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Chris Ho :)
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27 Nov 2014 09:14 |
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Level: Item Will of John Warren of Margaretting Tye, Margaretting, yeoman
Reference Code: D/AEW 43/5/10
Dates of Creation: 2 August 1837
http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/
(from above, if relating)
Chris :)
http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/EssexAncestors.aspx
(above for Essex Parishes, subscription needed to view Records)
1 Day (24 hours) - £5.00 1 Week (7 days) - £20.00 1 month (30 days) - £30.00 6 months (182 days) - £60.00 1 year (365 days) - £85.00
http://www.law-family.org.uk/law_family/f103.html
(google search, brings above, if them)
National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) LUCY Last name LINCE Birth year 1821 Death year 1845 Age 24 Burial year 1845 Burial day 17 Burial month 12 Place GREAT BADDOW Church description ST MARY THE VIRGIN Church denomination ANGLICAN County Essex
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Index to Death Duty Registers Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) John Last name Warren Death year 1837 Residence MARGARETTING County ESSEX Court PCC And Country Courts Record set Index to Death Duty Registers 1796-1903 TNA ref IR27/243
(named Executor Sarah Warren)
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PricklyHolly
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27 Nov 2014 09:47 |
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1841 England Census about William Warren Name:William Warren Age:45 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1796 Gender:Male Where born:Essex, England Civil Parish:Margaretting Hundred:Chelmsford County/Island: Essex Registration district:Chelmsford Sub-registration district:Ingatestone
Household Members:
Mary Lines 70 >>>>>>Looks more like Mary "Lince" on the image. William Warren 45 (Ag Lab) Mary Warren 45 Ann Warren 50
Further down the same page......
Household Members:
John Chalk Warren 55 (Carpenter) Mary Ann Warren 50 David Warren 15 Sarah Warren 75
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Stephen
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27 Nov 2014 12:33 |
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Thank you for the info about the Warrens yes i will keep the families together sorry about that thanks again i will do some reading and catch up with what info you have given me Jill
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Stephen
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27 Nov 2014 12:33 |
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Thank you for the info about the Warrens yes i will keep the families together sorry about that thanks again i will do some reading and catch up with what info you have given me Jill
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