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john edwards

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Gillian

Gillian Report 21 Nov 2014 10:49

hi
john was born 1900? in camberwell
i have looked for marriages
and found
marriage year
1927 brides name buckingham
1928 buxton
1929 dunk
and 1959 aland
1968 coughlin
i think he would have been married by 1968?
so how can i find out which one is correct if any of them?

many thanks
:-)
all in camberwell london area

Dea

Dea Report 21 Nov 2014 10:56

How is he related to your family?

Do you know of any children he might have had?

What else do you know about him please?

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 21 Nov 2014 11:01

This is the only birth for that name around that time in Camberwell - do you know if he had these middle names?

Births Dec 1899
Edwards John Henry W Camberwell 1d 952

Dea x

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 21 Nov 2014 11:06

If he had children that you know of look for that child's birth on FreeBMD and it will give you mother's maiden name. From there you could find the marriage.

However if you don't know if he had children I don't know what to suggest.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 21 Nov 2014 11:26

Who were his parents?

Look for his birth to get more accurate info about him.........whether, for instance, he had any other names. John Edwards is just too common a name to look for without further facts

Guessing about his birth year is not necessary, with freebmd to look at

Have you considered that he may not have lived long enough to marry anyone?

If he did marry, there is no reason to assume that it would have been in Camberwell...................it could have been anywhere

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 21 Nov 2014 11:31

Is he one of these?

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
69, Wyndham Road, Camberwell, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Edwards Head Married Male 24 1877 Plasterer Camberwell, Surrey, England Transcription
Ethel Clara Edwards Wife Married Female 24 1877 - Camberwell, Surrey, England Transcription
John Edwards Son - Male 1 1900 - Newington, London, England Transcription


OR

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
11, Blakes Road, Camberwell, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Edwards Head Married Male 25 1876 Horse Keeper Camberwell, Surrey, England Transcription
Ellen Edwards Wife Married Female 22 1879 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England Transcription
John Edwards Son Single Male 1 1900 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription
Alfred Crother Uncle Single Male 32 1869 Paper Factory Labourer Camberwell, Surrey, England Transcription

OR


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
25, Archdale Road, Camberwell, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Annie Edleston Wife Married Female 43 1858 - Westminster, Middlesex, England Transcription
Minnie Edleston Daughter Single Female 21 1880 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription
Daisy Edleston Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Shop Assistant (Laundry) Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription
Grace Edleston Daughter - Female 17 1884 Packer (Laundry) Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription
Eva Edleston Daughter - Female 15 1886 Ironer (Laundry) Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription
Lily Edleston Daughter - Female 13 1888 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription
Edy Edleston Daughter - Female 10 1891 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription
Flora Edleston Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription
Annie Edwards Daughter Widow Female 23 1878 Ironer Laundry Kennington, Surrey, England Transcription
John Edwards Grand Son - Male 2 1899 - Peckham, Surrey, England

Dea

Dea Report 21 Nov 2014 11:36

According to his baptism the one I posted above is the one on Blakes Road with parents Ellen and John.

Births Dec 1899
Edwards John Henry W Camberwell 1d 952



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about John Henry William Edwards
Name: John Henry William Edwards
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 27 Oct 1899
Father's Name: John Henry William Edwards Horse keeper
Mother's name: Ellen Elizabeth Edwards
Parish or Poor Law Union: Peckham St Luke
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

address: ?? 120 Cau?dry, Gron Smthe???


Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%)
**EDWARDS John Henry W Camberwell 1d 1453
Gray Arthur Camberwell 1d 1453
**Smith Ellen Camberwell 1d 1453
Swallow Caroline Matilda Camberwell 1d 1453

BUT, we don't yet know if this is the one seagate is looking for.......

Dea x

Gillian

Gillian Report 21 Nov 2014 13:12

hi everybody

john edward born 1899/1900? camberwell is my step uncle
the details of john edward edwards married to ellen smith
ellen is my grandmother
trying to find john junior wife have not checked for children as yet
a relative said that johns junior wife had been in contact with my aunt but as she is in her 90s and not in good health do not know if she will remember her?
thanks

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 21 Nov 2014 13:17

Take your pick


Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)

Edwards John H W Honor Hackney 1b 1091 Scan available - click to view


Marriages Jun 1932 (>99%)

Edwards John H W Seakins W. Ham 4a 431 Scan available - click to view


Marriages Mar 1941 (>99%)

Edwards John H W Saunders Hackney 1b 819

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 21 Nov 2014 13:20

Find out who the informant was by getting a copy

First name(s) JOHN HENRY W
Last name EDWARDS
Gender Male
Birth day 11
Birth month 10
Birth year 1899
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1990
District BROMLEY
Register number 390
County Kent
Volume 11
Page 1129
Country England

Gillian

Gillian Report 21 Nov 2014 14:09

hi
sorry for delay in answering but computer for emails has broken down and had to sign into genes to see replies
will investigate more and see what i can find many thanks for all your help now and in the future

Dea

Dea Report 23 Nov 2014 11:19

I have been playing around with the electoral rolls and this appears to be 'your' JHW Edwards:


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about John Henry William Edwards
Name: John Henry William Edwards
Year: 1924
County or Borough: Southwark
Ward or Division/Constituency: Camberwell
Street address: 6 Stanton Street
Also there: Charles Mummery, Ellen Mummery, Elizabeth Smith ???


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about John Henry William Edwards
Name: John Henry William Edwards
Year: 1928
County or Borough: Southwark
Ward or Division/Constituency: Camberwell
at 6 Stanton St. with George Edwards and Charles + Ellen Mummery.


It looks like Ellen Mummery is probably his mother who has remarried?

Marriages Dec 1910
**Edwards Ellen Camberwell 1d 1446 Scan available - click to view
England Edith R Camberwell 1d 1446 Scan available - click to view
England Henry J Camberwell 1d 1446 Scan available - click to view
**Mummery Charles Camberwell 1d 1446 Scan available - click to view
Roach Clara E Camberwell 1d 1446 Scan available - click to view


This is her death in 1948 and the age would fit:
Deaths Dec 1948
Mummery Ellen E 70 Camberwell 5c 240 Scan available - click to view


Unfortunately there is also this one for 1928 which shows him with his wife's family:

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about John Henry William Edwards
Name: John Henry William Edwards
Year: 1928
County or Borough: Hackney
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hackney
Street address: 27 Clarence Road
with Elsie Elizabeth Edwards, Alfred Alexander Honor, Mary Ann Honor

This marriage has also been posted above !
Marriages Sep 1919

Edwards John H W Honor Hackney 1b 1091
Honor Elsie E K Edwards Hackney 1b 1091

Births Mar 1897 (>99%)
Honor Elsie Elizabeth K Hackney 1b 540


Deaths Sep 1928 (>99%)
Edwards Elsie E K 31 Hackney 1b 387



After his wife's death he again appears at 6 Stanton St:

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about John Henry William Edwards
Name: John Henry William Edwards
Year: 1929
County or Borough: Southwark
Ward or Division/Constituency: Camberwell
Street address: 6 Stanton Street
with George Edwards and Charles + Ellen Mummery

Then...... in 1930 with brother George Alfred and his mum Ellen and stepfather Charles:

In 1930 he appears at the same address as in 1928 but with a 'Mabel' ???

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about John Henry William Edwards
Name: John Henry William Edwards
Year: 1930
County or Borough: Hackney
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hackney
Street address: 27 CLARENCE ROAD-ccnf
With Mabel Edwards and Mr. + Mrs. Honor.. ??



1931 back with 'mum'.....:
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about John Henry William Edwards
Name: John Henry William Edwards
Year: 1931
County or Borough: Southwark
Ward or Division/Constituency: Camberwell
Street address: 6 Stanton Street
with George Alfred Edwards + Charles and Ellen Mummery


Are there 2 of them ??

I don't really think so - it is possible that he was recorded at both addresses in 1928 - it certainly happened on the census's.

There were 2 possible children born to his first marriage 1922 1nd 1925, however we have to be careful as there were 2 more born to a couple with the same surnames in 1931 1nd 1938 !!

Perhaps someone will have a further look around the above and see if they can positively connect them?

I will see if I can find anything else later.

Dea x


NB - There are earlier electoral rolls which do not mention his wife Elsie but she would not have been entitled to vote until the law changed in 1928 on age and qualification etc. so this would have been the first year she could have appeared on there.

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 23 Nov 2014 13:09

Drattt !!!!! - There ARE two of them ! :-( :-( :-(

Births Mar 1899 (>99%)
Edwards John Henry W Hackney 1b 587 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1899 (>99%)
Edwards John Henry W Camberwell 1d 952 Scan available - click to view


The one who married who married Elsie Honor is not 'your's.

He was the one born in March in Hackney and on his marriage his father John Henry was deceased and a 'Glass Blower' (which doesn't fit)...........

Dea x

Gillian

Gillian Report 23 Nov 2014 14:42

hi
found out that john henry william edwards wife christian name is doris
i believe doris seakins is johns wife? have contacted one person awaiting reply
i will look for children

many thanks

Dea

Dea Report 23 Nov 2014 19:31

Deaths Mar 1936 (>99%)
Edwards Doris M 27 W Ham 4a 58 Scan available - click to view

?????????????????

Dea x

Gillian

Gillian Report 23 Nov 2014 20:26

hi dea
not sure if correct one relative was still in contact with doris in year 2000?
many thanks for all your help

Dea

Dea Report 23 Nov 2014 20:31

You are very welcome seagate !! - Hope I have been of some help
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Dea Xxx