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hi john was born 1900? in camberwell i have looked for marriages and found marriage year 1927 brides name buckingham 1928 buxton 1929 dunk and 1959 aland 1968 coughlin i think he would have been married by 1968? so how can i find out which one is correct if any of them?
many thanks :-) all in camberwell london area
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How is he related to your family?
Do you know of any children he might have had?
What else do you know about him please?
Dea x
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This is the only birth for that name around that time in Camberwell - do you know if he had these middle names?
Births Dec 1899 Edwards John Henry W Camberwell 1d 952
Dea x
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If he had children that you know of look for that child's birth on FreeBMD and it will give you mother's maiden name. From there you could find the marriage.
However if you don't know if he had children I don't know what to suggest.
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Who were his parents?
Look for his birth to get more accurate info about him.........whether, for instance, he had any other names. John Edwards is just too common a name to look for without further facts
Guessing about his birth year is not necessary, with freebmd to look at
Have you considered that he may not have lived long enough to marry anyone?
If he did marry, there is no reason to assume that it would have been in Camberwell...................it could have been anywhere
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Is he one of these?
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 69, Wyndham Road, Camberwell, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Edwards Head Married Male 24 1877 Plasterer Camberwell, Surrey, England Transcription Ethel Clara Edwards Wife Married Female 24 1877 - Camberwell, Surrey, England Transcription John Edwards Son - Male 1 1900 - Newington, London, England Transcription
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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 11, Blakes Road, Camberwell, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Edwards Head Married Male 25 1876 Horse Keeper Camberwell, Surrey, England Transcription Ellen Edwards Wife Married Female 22 1879 - Bermondsey, Surrey, England Transcription John Edwards Son Single Male 1 1900 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription Alfred Crother Uncle Single Male 32 1869 Paper Factory Labourer Camberwell, Surrey, England Transcription
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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 25, Archdale Road, Camberwell, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Annie Edleston Wife Married Female 43 1858 - Westminster, Middlesex, England Transcription Minnie Edleston Daughter Single Female 21 1880 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription Daisy Edleston Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Shop Assistant (Laundry) Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription Grace Edleston Daughter - Female 17 1884 Packer (Laundry) Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription Eva Edleston Daughter - Female 15 1886 Ironer (Laundry) Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription Lily Edleston Daughter - Female 13 1888 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription Edy Edleston Daughter - Female 10 1891 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription Flora Edleston Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Peckham, Surrey, England Transcription Annie Edwards Daughter Widow Female 23 1878 Ironer Laundry Kennington, Surrey, England Transcription John Edwards Grand Son - Male 2 1899 - Peckham, Surrey, England
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According to his baptism the one I posted above is the one on Blakes Road with parents Ellen and John.
Births Dec 1899 Edwards John Henry W Camberwell 1d 952
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about John Henry William Edwards Name: John Henry William Edwards Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 27 Oct 1899 Father's Name: John Henry William Edwards Horse keeper Mother's name: Ellen Elizabeth Edwards Parish or Poor Law Union: Peckham St Luke Borough: Southwark Register Type: Parish Registers
address: ?? 120 Cau?dry, Gron Smthe???
Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%) **EDWARDS John Henry W Camberwell 1d 1453 Gray Arthur Camberwell 1d 1453 **Smith Ellen Camberwell 1d 1453 Swallow Caroline Matilda Camberwell 1d 1453
BUT, we don't yet know if this is the one seagate is looking for.......
Dea x
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hi everybody
john edward born 1899/1900? camberwell is my step uncle the details of john edward edwards married to ellen smith ellen is my grandmother trying to find john junior wife have not checked for children as yet a relative said that johns junior wife had been in contact with my aunt but as she is in her 90s and not in good health do not know if she will remember her? thanks
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Take your pick
Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)
Edwards John H W Honor Hackney 1b 1091 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Jun 1932 (>99%)
Edwards John H W Seakins W. Ham 4a 431 Scan available - click to view
Marriages Mar 1941 (>99%)
Edwards John H W Saunders Hackney 1b 819
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Find out who the informant was by getting a copy
First name(s) JOHN HENRY W Last name EDWARDS Gender Male Birth day 11 Birth month 10 Birth year 1899 Age - Death quarter 1 Death year 1990 District BROMLEY Register number 390 County Kent Volume 11 Page 1129 Country England
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hi sorry for delay in answering but computer for emails has broken down and had to sign into genes to see replies will investigate more and see what i can find many thanks for all your help now and in the future
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I have been playing around with the electoral rolls and this appears to be 'your' JHW Edwards:
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about John Henry William Edwards Name: John Henry William Edwards Year: 1924 County or Borough: Southwark Ward or Division/Constituency: Camberwell Street address: 6 Stanton Street Also there: Charles Mummery, Ellen Mummery, Elizabeth Smith ???
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about John Henry William Edwards Name: John Henry William Edwards Year: 1928 County or Borough: Southwark Ward or Division/Constituency: Camberwell at 6 Stanton St. with George Edwards and Charles + Ellen Mummery.
It looks like Ellen Mummery is probably his mother who has remarried?
Marriages Dec 1910 **Edwards Ellen Camberwell 1d 1446 Scan available - click to view England Edith R Camberwell 1d 1446 Scan available - click to view England Henry J Camberwell 1d 1446 Scan available - click to view **Mummery Charles Camberwell 1d 1446 Scan available - click to view Roach Clara E Camberwell 1d 1446 Scan available - click to view
This is her death in 1948 and the age would fit: Deaths Dec 1948 Mummery Ellen E 70 Camberwell 5c 240 Scan available - click to view
Unfortunately there is also this one for 1928 which shows him with his wife's family:
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about John Henry William Edwards Name: John Henry William Edwards Year: 1928 County or Borough: Hackney Ward or Division/Constituency: Hackney Street address: 27 Clarence Road with Elsie Elizabeth Edwards, Alfred Alexander Honor, Mary Ann Honor
This marriage has also been posted above ! Marriages Sep 1919
Edwards John H W Honor Hackney 1b 1091 Honor Elsie E K Edwards Hackney 1b 1091
Births Mar 1897 (>99%) Honor Elsie Elizabeth K Hackney 1b 540
Deaths Sep 1928 (>99%) Edwards Elsie E K 31 Hackney 1b 387
After his wife's death he again appears at 6 Stanton St:
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about John Henry William Edwards Name: John Henry William Edwards Year: 1929 County or Borough: Southwark Ward or Division/Constituency: Camberwell Street address: 6 Stanton Street with George Edwards and Charles + Ellen Mummery
Then...... in 1930 with brother George Alfred and his mum Ellen and stepfather Charles:
In 1930 he appears at the same address as in 1928 but with a 'Mabel' ???
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about John Henry William Edwards Name: John Henry William Edwards Year: 1930 County or Borough: Hackney Ward or Division/Constituency: Hackney Street address: 27 CLARENCE ROAD-ccnf With Mabel Edwards and Mr. + Mrs. Honor.. ??
1931 back with 'mum'.....: London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 about John Henry William Edwards Name: John Henry William Edwards Year: 1931 County or Borough: Southwark Ward or Division/Constituency: Camberwell Street address: 6 Stanton Street with George Alfred Edwards + Charles and Ellen Mummery
Are there 2 of them ??
I don't really think so - it is possible that he was recorded at both addresses in 1928 - it certainly happened on the census's.
There were 2 possible children born to his first marriage 1922 1nd 1925, however we have to be careful as there were 2 more born to a couple with the same surnames in 1931 1nd 1938 !!
Perhaps someone will have a further look around the above and see if they can positively connect them?
I will see if I can find anything else later.
Dea x
NB - There are earlier electoral rolls which do not mention his wife Elsie but she would not have been entitled to vote until the law changed in 1928 on age and qualification etc. so this would have been the first year she could have appeared on there.
Dea x
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Drattt !!!!! - There ARE two of them ! :-( :-( :-(
Births Mar 1899 (>99%) Edwards John Henry W Hackney 1b 587 Scan available - click to view Births Dec 1899 (>99%) Edwards John Henry W Camberwell 1d 952 Scan available - click to view
The one who married who married Elsie Honor is not 'your's.
He was the one born in March in Hackney and on his marriage his father John Henry was deceased and a 'Glass Blower' (which doesn't fit)...........
Dea x
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hi found out that john henry william edwards wife christian name is doris i believe doris seakins is johns wife? have contacted one person awaiting reply i will look for children
many thanks
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Deaths Mar 1936 (>99%) Edwards Doris M 27 W Ham 4a 58 Scan available - click to view
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Dea x
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hi dea not sure if correct one relative was still in contact with doris in year 2000? many thanks for all your help
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You are very welcome seagate !! - Hope I have been of some help | Dea Xxx
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