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Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 3 Send Message	Sheelah	Report	9 Nov 2013 14:53
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 3 Send Message	I know Jane's maiden name was Fagan because my grandmother, her daughter Mary Rowan, told me that.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10,105 Send Message	Abby	Report	8 Nov 2013 14:56
	Name: Patrick Rowan Birth Date: 1856 Birthplace: Age: 26 Spouse's Name: Jane Macklin Spouse's Birth Date: 1857 Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: 25 Event Date: 04 Jun 1882 Event Place: St. Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Father's Name: Anthony Rowan Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: John Macklin Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Single Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Single Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00765-8 System Origin: England-EASy GS Film number: 1656687 Reference ID: it 1, p 93, no 185
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 65,996 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	8 Nov 2013 14:46
	You must have access to different records than I have......I can't see the 1911 to which you refer for the son
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 65,996 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	8 Nov 2013 14:44
	You haven't told us where you got the name FAGAN
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 3 Send Message	Sheelah	Report	8 Nov 2013 14:41
Member Since: January 2007 Posts: 3 Send Message	Thank you all for this help. I had been able to find the family on census records from 1891, 1901, 1911. I cannot find any records of marriage or of the births of the children and this is where I hit brick wall. I am descended from Mary Rowan/ Ross whom Jane is living with in 1911, I am pretty certain Patrick died in 1906. Their son Patrick joined the navy and appears on 1911 census in Portsmouth.I cannot be sure of the spouses of Ellen and Jane but think Ellen married a surname Standley
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	7 Nov 2013 17:15
	there are no Teresa and Sarah births as per that 1881 unless I am missing them? though I can find Mary J (likely)
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Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	7 Nov 2013 16:41
	Odd though Reggie that on the 1881 census i posted, Patrick is 31. It appears to be the same family in 1871......but Patrick is 30. Edit: Note that on the 1891 census posted.........he was born 1851 a Dock Labourer. I might need to have a lie down! Edit....Reggie has deleted her post.
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 65,996 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	7 Nov 2013 16:33
	There is NO birth to match the info about Patrick c1892
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	7 Nov 2013 16:17
	Am i following the wrong Patrick Rowen?? This is the Patrick and Mary from the 1881 census i posted... ..1871 England Census about Annie Rowan Name: Annie Rowan Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Patrick Rowan Mother's Name: Mary Rowan Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool Civil Parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration District: Liverpool Sub-registration District: St Thomas ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household Schedule Number: 528 Piece: 3777 Folio: 75 Page Number: 87 Household Members: Name Age Patrick Rowan 30 (Dock Labourer) Mary Rowan 30 Annie Rowan 4 Catherine Rowan 2 Bridget Flynn 25 (Sister) Catherine Flynn 18 (Sister) Clolin Flynn 16 (Brother) Which ties in with the 1865 marriage i posted. I'm confused now!
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 65,996 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	7 Nov 2013 16:16
	We need feedback from Sheelah about her sources
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 65,996 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	7 Nov 2013 16:15
	Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1903 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference ROWAN Mary ROSS James Liverpool, St. Michael in the City Liverpool 2054LP/11/163
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 65,996 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	7 Nov 2013 16:11
	This is a CofE marriage................. Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1882 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference ROWAN Patrick MACKLIN Jane Liverpool, St. Peter Liverpool 2122LP/74/185
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,491 Send Message	Maddie	Report	7 Nov 2013 16:08
	Jane is a widow by 1911 ROSS, James Head Married M 29 1882 Iron Drum Maker Liverpool Lancashire VIEW ROSS, Mary Wife Married7 years F 27 1884 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW ROSS, William Son Single M 7 1904 School Liverpool Lancashire VIEW ROSS, James Son Single M 5 1906 School Liverpool Lancashire VIEW ROSS, Mary Jane Daughter Single F 3 1908 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW ROSS, Thomas Patrick Son Single M 1 1910 Liverpool Lancashire VIEW ROWAN, Jane Mother In Law Widow F 58 1853 Nil Liverpool Lancashire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 22219 Reference: RG14PN22219 RG78PN1314 RD454 SD1 ED8 SN17 Registration District: Toxteth Park Sub District: Toxteth Park North West Enumeration District: 8 Parish: Toxteth Park Address: 8 in 7 Court Laxey Street Liverpool S County: Lancashire refine search back to 1911 census search resu
Member Since: February 2012 Posts: 256 Send Message	Barry	Report	7 Nov 2013 16:08
	There are trees on Ancestry, some showing Patrick's wife as Jane Fagan and there is another showing his wife as Jane Macklin b 1861 and married in Liverpool 1882 Perhaps Jane Macklin was a widow ?? mn Fagan ?
Member Since: August 2003 Posts: 65,996 Send Message	ErikaH	Report	7 Nov 2013 16:05
	Where did you find the maiden name info for Jane? Which of her children is your direct line?
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	7 Nov 2013 16:05
	First marriage... ?? Marriages Sep 1865 Flynn Mary Liverpool 8b 458 Rowan Patrick Liverpool 8b 458
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,491 Send Message	Maddie	Report	7 Nov 2013 16:03
	???? ivil registration event: Birth View the original image Name: ROWAN, Patrick Registration district: [?] Liverpool County: Lancashire Year of registration: 1852 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no:[?]8B Page no:[?]130
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	7 Nov 2013 16:00
	Have you found them on the 1881 census? This is very odd looking at the ages.......but it's the only 1881 i can find at the moment... ..1881 England Census about Patrick Rowan Name: Patrick Rowan Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Mary Rowan Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 5 CT. Norfolk St. 6 Ho. Marital Status: Married Education: Employment status: View Image Occupation: Labourer Registration District: Liverpool Sub-registration District: St Thomas ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3617 Folio: 84 Page Number: 39 Household Members: Name Age Patrick Rowan 31 (Labourer) Mary Rowan 30 Anne E. Rowan 16 Cathrine Rowan 14 Mary J. Rowan 9 Bridgit Rowan 7 Margret Rowan 6 Teresa Rowan 4 Sarah Rowan 4 Ellen Rowan 1
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: February 2006 Posts: 36,149 Send Message	Rambling	Report	7 Nov 2013 15:58
	with first wife? Name: Ellen Rowan Age (Original): 1 Gender: Female Birth Year: 1880 Birthplace: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Marital Status: Single Occupation: Address: 6 Ho 5 Ct Norfolk St Event Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Disability: Record Type: Household GS Film number: 1341866 Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 3617 / 84 Page Number: 39 Household Gender Age Birthplace Head Patrick Rowan M 31 Ireland Wife Mary Rowan F 30 Ireland Daughter Anne E Rowan F 16 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Cathrine Rowan F 14 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Mary J Rowan F 9 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Bridget Rowan F 7 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Margret Rowan F 6 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Teresa Rowan F 4 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Sarah Rowan F 4 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter Ellen Rowan F 1 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,491 Send Message	Maddie	Report	7 Nov 2013 15:56
	??? from a tree on ancestry 1871 England Census about Patrick Rowan Name: Patrick Rowan Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Son Father's Name: Anthony Rowan Mother's Name: Mary Rowan Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool Civil Parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration District: Liverpool Sub-registration District: St Thomas ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household Schedule Number: 213 Piece: 3777 Folio: 48 Page Number: 34 Household Members: Name Age Anthony Rowan 46 1825 Ireland Mary Rowan 50 1821 Ireland Patrick Rowan 18

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