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thankyou so much.. once again very helpful, im picking it up nicely, howev er with the steeples there are so many williams and stephens in my line, it gets so complex,
this thread is excellent thanx again
vena

thankyou so much, everyone, i think i went onto another line, it is so difficult getting back with this family
so many williams and stephens, you have all helped so much thankyou

Phoebe Shaw Jan-Feb-Mar 1859 Belper Derbyshire
Stephen Steeples Jan-Feb-Mar 1859 Belper Derbyshire
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 579

1851 England Census about Stephen Steeples
Name: Stephen Steeples
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Servant
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Idridgehay, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Pentrich
Ecclesiastical parish: Pentrich
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Registration district: Belper
Sub-registration district: Ripley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Piece: 2145
Folio: 186
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Smedley 25
Hannah Smedley 21
William Smedley 3 Mo
Emma Merchant 14
Stephen Steeples 14
John Sophleton 15

1861 England Census
Name: Stephen Steeples
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Phoebe Steeples
Gender: Male
Where born: Idridgehay, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Belper
Ecclesiastical parish: Bridge Hill
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Registration district: Belper
Sub-registration district: Belper
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Piece: 2510
Folio: 110
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Steeples 24
Phoebe Steeples 22
Stephen Steeples 2

The family on the other thread in 1911 is your line.

The one above isn't.....unless William jnr lost 5 years and changed his birthplace

This is the William who you said was your line on your other thread...........


1871 England Census
Name: William Steeples
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Stephen Steeples
Mother's Name: Phoebe Steeples
Gender: Male
Where born: Belper, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Ripley
Ecclesiastical parish: Pentrich
Town: Hartshay
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Belper
Sub-registration district: Ripley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 223
Piece: 3585
Folio: 24
Page Number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Steeples 34
Phoebe Steeples 32
Stephen Steeples 12
Phobe Steeples 9
William Steeples 6
John Steeples 2

Your father (Leonard) is on the 1911 census with him...................and the rest of his family

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1319106

Vena, have you not been using FreeBMD? His marriage and son William's birth were on there:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1859
Baker Hannah Derby 7b 650
Higginson Charles Derby 7b 650
Steeples William Derby 7b 650 <<<
Wheeldon Sarah Derby 7b 650

Births Dec 1860
STEEPLES William Belper 7b 442

Put the following in your favourites, and use it for all BMD's between 1837 and approx 1955-60

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

1871 England Census
Name: William Steeples
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Stepson
Mother's Name: Sarah Broughton
Gender: Male
Where born: Wirksworth, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Bollin Fee
Ecclesiastical parish: Wilmslow
Town: Wilmslow
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Wilmslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 23
Piece: 3680
Folio: 6
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Broughton 42
Sarah Broughton 42
Alfred Broughton 16
Andrew Broughton 10
Amy Broughton 9
Amelia Broughton 7
William Steeples 10
Charles Broughton 76

Sarah re-married in 1869

1881 England Census about Sarah Broughton
Name: Sarah Broughton
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry Broughton
Gender: Female
Where born: Wirksworth, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Bollin Fee
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: Hawthorn St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Altrincham
Sub-registration district: Wilmslow
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3500
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Broughton 54
Sarah Broughton 51
Amelia Broughton 17

1861 England Census

Name: Sarah Steeples
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Wirksworth, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Hartshorne
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
Sub-registration district: Hartshorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Piece: 2268
Folio: 65
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Thacker 30
Fanny Thacker 28
Sarah A Thacker 5
Thomas Thacker 1
George Thacker 19
Sarah Steeples 31
William Steeples 5 Months

1861 based on the info from that Ancestry tree:

THACKER, Joseph Head Married M 30 1831 Agricultural Labourer ..., Derbyshire
THACKER, Janey Wife Married F 38 1823 Labourers Wife Wirksworth, Derbyshire
THACKER, Sarah A Daughter Unmarried F 5 1856 Scholar Hartshorne, Derbyshire
THACKER, Thomas Son M 1 1860 Hartshorne, Derbyshire
THACKER, George Lodger Unmarried M 19 1842 Coal Miner Windsworth, Derbyshire
STEEPLES, Sarah Visitor Widow F 31 1830 Idridgehay
STEEPLES, William Visitor M 0 (5M) 1861 Ditton, Derbyshire

Piece: 2268 Folio: 65 Page: 1
Registration District: Ashby-De-La-Zouch
Civil Parish: Hartshorne

Address: Lodge House, Hartshorne County: Leicestershire

One child

william steeples - 1860

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: William Steeples
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1860
Registration district: Belper
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 265

There's a very well researched tree on Ancestry, has his wife (Sarah Wheeldon), son William b1860 and his death certificate.

From Family search
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William Steeples to MAry Brown 29 Dec 1836 at Kirk Ireton, Derbys

Kirk Ireton is the next village to Idridgehay

Look for his marriage on freebmd...............if you're sure he's the right person.

He was late starting a family if he was still single at the age of 50

If one of his children is your line, you should know the mother's first name, at least

From a tree on Ancestry - would need checking

Birth: 1801 - Derbyshire, England
Marriage: June 1859 (Jun 1859) - Derby, Derbyshire
Death: 1860 - Idridgehay, Derbyshire
Parents: John Steeples, Ann
Spouse: Sarah Wheeldon

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William Steeples Apr-May-Jun 1859 Derby Derbyshire
Sarah Wheeldon Apr-May-Jun 1859 Derby Derbyshire

The name of the place in Derbyshire is Idridgehay