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From previous exploration it has been agreed that Robert Gray married Ann Nicholson :-
Marriages Dec 1843
Gray John Gateshead
24 120

Nicholson Ann Gateshead
24 120

From Family search I have found a number of Nicholsons who I think are Ann's family. Can anybody see any census confirmation of my hopes please?


name: Ann Nicholson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 05 Apr 1823
baptism/christening place: All Saints, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
father's name: Robert Nicholson
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C01333-8

name: Margaret Nicholson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 28 May 1827
baptism/christening place: All Saints, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
father's name: Robert Nicholson
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C01334-5

name: Elizabeth Nicholson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 03 Oct 1829
baptism/christening place: Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
father's name: Robert Nicholson
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C15606-1

name: Mary Nicholson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 10 Sep 1831
baptism/christening place: Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
father's name: Robert Nicholson
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C15606-1

name: Eleanor Nicholson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 12 Jan 1839
baptism/christening place: All Saints', Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
father's name: Robert Nicholson
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C13279-1

name: Robert Nicholson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 03 Jul 1841
baptism/christening place: All Saints', Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
father's name: Robert Nicholson
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C01730-8

groom's name: Robert Nicholson
bride's name: Ann Young
marriage date: 31 Dec 1821
marriage place: All Saints', Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
indexing project (batch) number: I00589-4

Many thanks,
Frances

Is this your family in 1841
1841 census transcription details for: Diamond Row, Longbenton, Walker

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 822
Book/Folio: 5/11
Page: 14
Reg. District: Tynemouth
Sub District: Longbenton
Parish: Longbenton
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Diamond Row, Longbenton, Walker
County: Northumberland
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
NICHOLSON, Robert M 46 1795 Northumberland<<<<<<Coal Miner
NICHOLSON, Ann F 43 1798 Northumberland
NICHOLSON, Ann F 19 1822 Northumberland
NICHOLSON, James M 16 1825 Northumberland
NICHOLSON, Margaret F 14 1827 Northumberland
NICHOLSON, Mary F 10 1831 Northumberland
NICHOLSON, Elizabeth F 8 1833 Northumberland
NICHOLSON, Isabella F 5 1836 Northumberland
NICHOLSON, Elenor F 3 1838 Northumberland
NICHOLSON, Robert M 0 (2 months) 1841 Northumberland
YOUNG, Thomas M 36 1805 Northumberland

Thank you Stuart;. From the number of names that you match I would say that is the correct family and you have found some extras that I hadn't seen in Family Search - which might just be my eyesight - lol

13 Nov 1843

Age: 20 Marriage to John Gray
Gateshead, Durham, England

1851 England Census
about John Grey
Name: John Grey
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Grey
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Renwick, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Tanfield
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Durham(Street Indexed)
Sub-registration district: Tanfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 131
Piece: 2389
Folio: 85
Page Number: 34
Household Members: Name Age
John Grey 28
Ann Grey 28
Robert Grey 5
Joseph Grey 5
John Grey 5 Mo
George Smith 28

Robert Nicholson
Birth abt 1780 in Gateshead, Durham, England

Married Margaret Maling Bishopwearmouth, Durham, England 28th Nov 1811 aged 31.

Thank you Mel, your 1851 agrees with what I have on the Gray (Grey) side of the family. I am not sure where Robert Nicholson and Margaret Maling fit in?

Going by the batch numbers on the names you put up they are from different families.

I really think you need to get the 1843 marriage cert to confirm Ann's father - it is very easy to go back down the wrong line - been there done that!

My mistake I think but how about this one.

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about Robert Nicholson
Name: Robert Nicholson
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Ann Young
Marriage Date: 31 Dec 1821
Marriage Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

A possibility for Robert and Ann, with only Isabella and Robert at home

1851 census transcription details for: Stanley Cottages, Tanfield

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2389
Folio: 83
Page: 31
Reg. District: Durham
Sub District: Tanfield
Parish: Tanfield
Enum. District: 1D
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Stanley Cottages, Tanfield
County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
NICHOLSON, Robert Head Married M 57 1794 Coal Miner Bethel, Northumberland
NICHOLSON, Ann Wife Married F 53 1798 All Saints, Northumberland
NICHOLSON, Isabella Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836 Long Benton, Northumberland
NICHOLSON, Robert Son M 9 1842 Scholar Long Benton, Northumberland

Thanks for the reminder Potty. I have copied and pasted your comment to reinforce my suggestions to my neighbour when she next turns up to view my progress. I now have quite a number of certificate requests ......

These two are definates as they are the same Batch Numbers.

rents: Robert Nicholson,? Ann

name: Elizabeth Nicholson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 03 Oct 1829
baptism/christening place: Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
father's name: Robert Nicholson
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C15606-1******************
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1068963


parents: Robert Nicholson,? Ann

name: Mary Nicholson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 10 Sep 1831
baptism/christening place: Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
father's name: Robert Nicholson
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C15606-1 *******************
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1068963

1861 England Census
about Robert Nicholson
Name: Robert Nicholson
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert Nicholson
Mother's name: Ann Nicholson
Gender: Male
Where born: Walker, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Tanfield
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: Tanfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 199
Piece: 3729
Folio: 100
Page Number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Nicholson 68
Ann Nicholson 63
Robert Nicholson 20

Thank you Mel and Stuart. The reason I originally included children from different batches is that Newcastle would have had a number of different parishes and, from some previous experience I have found that families may move between parishes either for accomodation and/or christening during the years spread of a family. This is why I believe census confirmation is a help - short of possesing the family bible!
Moonlight flits were not unknown then!

Also in cities my experience is that 'Batches' can cover only a few years.

Is that a pic of a clematis in your garden?

Have to do some housework now.....Bah.....

Thank you Mel for noticing my picture. I only filled in my 'Profile' a few days ago.
My picture is of my fuchsia Lillian Annettes, grown by me from a cutting. This is another of my 'hobbies' and most absorbing. I currently have this autumn's cuttings growing from 53 of my 100+ fuchsia collection. Don't show too much interest or I will be sending you further pictures by way of G.R. attachments - lol

Looking back through the posts I see that Robert c.1793 gives Bethel as his place of birth. Does anybody know where this is please? Bing thinks it is in America ??? but somewhere in Northumberland seems more likely. I am trying to find him being born in Family search.

ndg