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Thanks Potty

and everyone for helping

The army records on Ancestry are the ones from the National Archives at Kew - they might have other regimental records for the Royal Munster Fusiliers, his first regiment. WW1 he appears to have been in the Labour Corps. Or their may be regimental museum.

Potty


thanks for your help . yes age would be against him been too young and been too old .

Would Kew Archives have more info on this man .

The John Fox whose records I sent you was discharged finally in March 1920. His age does vary. When he first joined the Army in 1887 his age is given as 19 (YOB 1868) but when he was called up in 1914 it is given as 42 (YOB 1872).

The two lots of records are definitely for the same man as the 1914 one has a ref to his previous Army No (2257) - does look as if he did not know his age or maybe he lied about it both times - the first because (if born 1866) at 17 he might have been too young and the second time because at 48 he might have been too old?

the john fox i have was in the army up till 1920

Geraldine, do you have proof that the John b1873 was the son of James Fox and Julia Carey? Not likely that they would have two sons called John unless the 1866 one died.

john fox birth 30 th Oct 1866 mallow we were told stories that he went to india maybe now we can prove that he did

Name: John Fox
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 30 Oct 1866
Birth Place: Mallew, Cork, Ireland
Baptism Place: Mallew, Cork, Ireland
Father's Name: James Fox
Mother's name: Julia Carey
FHL Film Number: 101139

Having checked the Pension Records, that census is not your John as he was in South Africa from 8/06/1900 to 18/10/1901. He also served in the East Indies from 1889 - 1894. He left the Army in 1903. Was his occupation given as soldier on the 1902 marriage cert?

Geraldine, there are two Army Pension Records on Ancestry for John - one from 1887 to 1901 and the other for WW1. His father is named as James and the some of the children were born in Castletownroche.

There is this John in 1901 but he is shown as married and John & Norah didn't marry until 1902. Is he shown as a bachelor on the marriage cert?

1901 England Census
about John Fox
Name: John Fox
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Soldier
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Dover
Ecclesiastical parish: Hougham Christ Church
Town: Dover
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Dover
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: South Front Barracks

If you pm me your email address I will send the Pension Record images.

I think is another sibling of john fox who cames from mallow with same parents

Name: James Fox
Regiment: Royal Engineers, Tramway Co
Regiment Number: See Image
Rank: See Image
Death Date: 15 Oct 1917
Death Place: France
Birth Place: Mallow, Ir

Potty


I got nora maiden from marriage cert . she would be my mother grandmother , she Relihan its spelt a few ways for eg renehan

family originated From castletownroche near mallow . cork which in district of Fermoy


Age is def not certain with census . as john fox father james fox is widowed in 1901 census aged 50 by 1911 he is 70 yrs old

Possible marriage - there is Norah Relihan on the same page. The marriage cert will give you their fathers' names:

John Fox
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1902
Registration district: Fermoy
Volume: 4
Page: 494 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101260

John in 1911 - age 38 so YOB 1873/1873 - not 1856. All born in Cork. Where did you get Norah's maiden name from? Have you found their marriage?:

Fox John 38 Male Head of Family Catholic Church County Cork Labourer General Read and write - Married -
Fox Norah 31 Female Wife Catholic Church County Cork - Read and write - Married - - - -
Fox James 8 Male Son Catholic Church County Cork Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Fox Denis 7 Male Son Catholic Church County Cork Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Fox Patrick 3 Male Son Catholic Church County Cork - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Fox May 2 Female Daughter Catholic Church

sorry only getting back to this post now


john fox is on the 1911 irish census with his wife norah relihan livivng in mallow , with children may , james , denis , patrick

Ger

Do you have any other details re his family/wife etc?

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Safc


this person is another possabiltiy , if i could link both parent s to this man i could be certain then .


Is it possible this regiment fought in other countries , ,

an old family story mentions india but i cant be 100 % that its true





thanks for searching

????

name: John Fox
age: 24
gender: Male
birth year: 1857
birthplace: Ireland
relationship to head of household:
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Soldiers 108th Reg
address: North Fort Battery
census place: Kirkdale, Lancashire, England
disability:
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341882
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 3684 / 24
page number: 41

Thanks


Hes not on irish census for 1901 but is for 1911 ,

where would i search 1901 in uk

I'll send the over now