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I Have found a record on Ancestry .uk for John fox born abt 1856 , age 22 enlisted , birth parish Mallow , Birth county cork
Doc year 1878

Reg Number 3021


Reg Name Royal Arg


i have ancestry sub but it wont let me read this


any help apprectitated

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sent you pm .


Is there any where else i can search for this person


thanks

There appear to be two WW1 Service records for him on Ancestry. I haven't looked at them yet, but I would guess that as the documents give an 1878 that he left the Army and was recalled to serve in WW1. FMP have some Service records for pre-1913 but they would only be a duplicate of what is on Ancestry.

Have you looked for him on the census?

I'll send the over now

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Hes not on irish census for 1901 but is for 1911 ,

where would i search 1901 in uk

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name: John Fox
age: 24
gender: Male
birth year: 1857
birthplace: Ireland
relationship to head of household:
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Soldiers 108th Reg
address: North Fort Battery
census place: Kirkdale, Lancashire, England
disability:
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341882
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 3684 / 24
page number: 41

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this person is another possabiltiy , if i could link both parent s to this man i could be certain then .


Is it possible this regiment fought in other countries , ,

an old family story mentions india but i cant be 100 % that its true





thanks for searching

Ger

Do you have any other details re his family/wife etc?

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sorry only getting back to this post now


john fox is on the 1911 irish census with his wife norah relihan livivng in mallow , with children may , james , denis , patrick

John in 1911 - age 38 so YOB 1873/1873 - not 1856. All born in Cork. Where did you get Norah's maiden name from? Have you found their marriage?:

Fox John 38 Male Head of Family Catholic Church County Cork Labourer General Read and write - Married -
Fox Norah 31 Female Wife Catholic Church County Cork - Read and write - Married - - - -
Fox James 8 Male Son Catholic Church County Cork Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Fox Denis 7 Male Son Catholic Church County Cork Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Fox Patrick 3 Male Son Catholic Church County Cork - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Fox May 2 Female Daughter Catholic Church

Possible marriage - there is Norah Relihan on the same page. The marriage cert will give you their fathers' names:

John Fox
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1902
Registration district: Fermoy
Volume: 4
Page: 494 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101260

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I got nora maiden from marriage cert . she would be my mother grandmother , she Relihan its spelt a few ways for eg renehan

family originated From castletownroche near mallow . cork which in district of Fermoy


Age is def not certain with census . as john fox father james fox is widowed in 1901 census aged 50 by 1911 he is 70 yrs old

I think is another sibling of john fox who cames from mallow with same parents

Name: James Fox
Regiment: Royal Engineers, Tramway Co
Regiment Number: See Image
Rank: See Image
Death Date: 15 Oct 1917
Death Place: France
Birth Place: Mallow, Ir

Geraldine, there are two Army Pension Records on Ancestry for John - one from 1887 to 1901 and the other for WW1. His father is named as James and the some of the children were born in Castletownroche.

There is this John in 1901 but he is shown as married and John & Norah didn't marry until 1902. Is he shown as a bachelor on the marriage cert?

1901 England Census
about John Fox
Name: John Fox
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Soldier
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Dover
Ecclesiastical parish: Hougham Christ Church
Town: Dover
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Dover
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: South Front Barracks

If you pm me your email address I will send the Pension Record images.

Having checked the Pension Records, that census is not your John as he was in South Africa from 8/06/1900 to 18/10/1901. He also served in the East Indies from 1889 - 1894. He left the Army in 1903. Was his occupation given as soldier on the 1902 marriage cert?

Name: John Fox
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 30 Oct 1866
Birth Place: Mallew, Cork, Ireland
Baptism Place: Mallew, Cork, Ireland
Father's Name: James Fox
Mother's name: Julia Carey
FHL Film Number: 101139

john fox birth 30 th Oct 1866 mallow we were told stories that he went to india maybe now we can prove that he did

Geraldine, do you have proof that the John b1873 was the son of James Fox and Julia Carey? Not likely that they would have two sons called John unless the 1866 one died.

the john fox i have was in the army up till 1920