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Hi Not sure if anyone is able to help but i have become very confused doing my tree. I have relatives Albert Francis lewis and james Beynon (the surname was misspelt in two of the census!) but i overcome this and am able to follow them to a point , my problem is they went to live with a family in the 1891 census and they are all described as "stepson" to the head of the house but i cant find them in earlier census to see who their father or mother was i seem to be going round in circles i think the mother was called Maria and married a man named Gamlin taking with her her children from the previous marriage but i am stuck please somebody help!!!


thanks Gaynor

Hi Gaynor

Can you post the dates of birth/place etc. What is the relationship between the two men?

Birth years and birthplaces, please................

1891 (reference)

GAMLIN, Thomas Head Married M 34 1857 Furnace Stoker
?, Somersetshire
GAMLIN, Maria Wife Married F 34 1857 Furniture Dealer
Swansea, South Wales
BEGNOR, Albert Stepson Single M 17 1874 Assistant Furniture Dealer
Swansea, South Wales
BEGNOR, Frank Stepson Single M 15 1876 Assistant Furniture Dealer
Swansea, South Wales
BEGNOR, Lewis Stepson Single M 13 1878 Scholar
Swansea, South Wales
BEGNOR, James Stepson Single M 11 1880 Scholar
Swansea, South Wales
GAMLIN, Thomas Son Single M 9 1882 Scholar
Birkenhead, Cheshire
GAMLIN, William Son Single M 7 1884 Scholar
Birkenhead, Cheshire
Piece: 2880
Folio: 63
Page: 16
Registration District: Birkenhead
Civil Parish: Birkenhead
Municipal Borough: Birkenhead
Address: 144, Conway Street, Birkenhead
County: Cheshire

Chris :)

Hi Reggie

in 1891 census a James Beynon (but spelt Begnor!!) aged 11 (born 1880) was living with a Thomas and Maria Gamlin in Conway street Birkenhead cheshire with his brothers Albert 17 francis 15 and Lewis 13 they are listed as stepsons to the head of house but i am unable to identify their father and if this Maria is the mother
The Beynons are originally from Swansea wales

Look for the marriage for Thomas and Maria on freebmd

Your original post led me to think that you were looking for one person with surname Lewis, and another with surname Beynon........lol!

You forgot to use commas!

1891 England Census about Thomas Gamlin
Name: Thomas Gamlin
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Marie Gamlin
Gender: Male
Where born: ??Ter, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Birkenhead
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England


Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Birkenhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2880
Folio: 63
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Gamlin 34
Marie Gamlin 34
Albert Bernor 17
Frank Bernor 15
Louis Bernor 13
James Bernor 11
Thomas Gamlin 9
William Gamlin 7

Cant quite work out from BMD the Beynon/Gamlin/SHELDON equasion

There is thomas Gamlin marrying a Maria in the right place at about th right time, but she is a SHELDON, not a Beynon

1881
BYNON, Menah Wife Head Married F 25 1856
Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
BYNON, Albert J Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar
Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
BYNON, Franck H Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
BYNON, Louis Wm Son Single M 2 1879 Scholar
Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
BYNON, James Son Single M 0 1881
Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
BYNON, Thomas Son Single M 0
Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales
Piece: 5361
Folio: 77
Page: 43
Registration District: Swansea
Civil Parish: Swansea (Town)
Municipal Borough:
Address: 80, Symons, Swansea (Town)
County: Glamorganshire

Chris :)

This is the marriage...........

Marriages Jun 1882 (>99%)
GAMLIN Thomas Birkenhead 8a 697
ROBERTS William Vaughan Birkenhead 8a 697
SHELDON Maria Birkenhead 8a 697
Yates Elizabeth Birkenhead 8a 697

1881

Name: Lewis I. Beynon
[Lewis T. Beynon]
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Beynon
Mother's name: Jemima Beynon
Gender: Male
Where born: Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil parish: Swansea Town
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: 4 John St
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Swansea
Sub-registration district: Swansea
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5359
Folio: 107
Page Number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Beynon 27
Jemima Beynon 28
Ann P. Beynon 7
Lewis I. Beynon 5
Catherine Beynon 3
Thomas J. Beynon 1
William J. Morse 22


1891
Name: Jemima Beynon
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Beynon
Gender: Female
Where born: Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil parish: Swansea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Swansea
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Swansea
Sub-registration district: Swansea
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4480
Folio: 27
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Beynon 37
Jemima Beynon 38
L T Beynon 15
Catherine Beynon 13
John Beynon 11
Arthur Beynon 9
J J Beynon 6
L A Beynon 2

Births Jun 1878 (>99%)
Beynon Lewis Williams Swansea 11a 740

Marriages Mar 1873 (>99%)
BEYNON Francis Swansea 11a 799
DHENIN Maria Swansea 11a 799
GILL James Swansea 11a 799
SUTTON Jane Swansea 11a 799

Deaths Jun 1881 (>99%)
BEYNON Francis 31 Swansea 11a 375

I think purchasing the 1882 marriage cert would be the most sensible course of action

Chris


That post looks promising altough that will be the 3rd time Beynon is misspelt but all the names do fit in so i will look again and see if Gamlin fits in this time . Any more help will be greatly received

thanks all

Forget that................no need for 1882 cert

Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
BEYNON Maria Swansea 11a 1022
Sheldon Angel Joseph Swansea 11a 1022

Gaynor

You could easily have found everything I've given you on freebmd yourself.....

Deaths Mar 1882 (>99%)
SHELDON Joseph 19 Swansea 11a 448

She didn't hang around between husbands!