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19 Sep 2012 11:21 |
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Can anyone help please. I have hit a brickwall, I am looking for parents of Thomas Smith b 1843 in Bolton. From his marriage info he married a Ruth Kirkman in 1866 at Holy Trinity Bolton.Father stated as James,occ Sawyer.
I cannot find a birth for Thomas but found a possible match in the 1851 census. James Smith 30 Sawyer Jane Smith 28 wife Thomas 8 Living with Daviis family Blackhorse st. Bolton
I know Smith is a problem area but can any one help Thank you in advance Susi
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19 Sep 2012 11:29 |
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1871 Census Household RecordHousehold Information Address Holden Street Parish Great Bolton District Bolton, Bolton Eastern Administrative County Lancashire
Householder 1 Name Thomas Smith Age 27 Estimated Year of Birth 1844 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 2 Name Ruth Smith Age 23 Estimated Year of Birth 1848 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 3 Name William Smith Age 2 Estimated Year of Birth 1869 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 4 Name John W Smith Age 0 Estimated Year of Birth 1871 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 5 Name James Smith Age 18 Estimated Year of Birth 1853 Relationship to Head of Household Lodger Occupation Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
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19 Sep 2012 11:35 |
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1861 Census Household RecordHousehold Information Address 159, Black Horse Street Parish Great Bolton District Bolton, Bolton Western Administrative County Lancashire
Householder 1 Name James Smith Age 41 Estimated Year of Birth 1820 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Sawyer Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 2 Name Jane Smith Age 38 Estimated Year of Birth 1823 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 3 Name Thomas Smith Age 18 Estimated Year of Birth 1843 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Fly Maker Iron... Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 4 Name Christina Smith Age 13 Estimated Year of Birth 1848 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Cotton Piecer Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 5 Name James Smith Age 10 Estimated Year of Birth 1851 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Scholar Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 6 Name John Smith Age 5 Estimated Year of Birth 1856 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Scholar Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 7 Name ... Smith Age 2 Estimated Year of Birth 1859 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
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19 Sep 2012 11:39 |
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1851 Census Household RecordHousehold Information Address Blackhorse Street Parish Great Bolton District Bolton, Western Bolton Administrative County Lancashire
Householder 1 Name William Davis Age 44 Estimated Year of Birth 1807 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Sawyer Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 2 Name Martha Davis Age 35 Estimated Year of Birth 1816 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 3 Name Francis Davis Age 14 Estimated Year of Birth 1837 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Factory Worker Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 4 Name Alice Davis Age 3 Estimated Year of Birth 1848 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Scholar Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 5 Name James Davis Age 1 Estimated Year of Birth 1850 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 6 Name James Smith Age 30 Estimated Year of Birth 1821 Relationship to Head of Household Visitor Occupation Sawyer Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 7 Name Jane Smith Age 28 Estimated Year of Birth 1823 Relationship to Head of Household Visitor Occupation Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 8 Name Thomas Smith Age 8 Estimated Year of Birth 1843 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
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19 Sep 2012 11:42 |
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possible birth
Birth Record Name Thomas Smith Year of Registration 1843 Quarter of Registration Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District Bolton Registration County Lancashire Mother's maiden name Volume Number 21 Volume Page 119
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19 Sep 2012 11:45 |
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1881 Census Household RecordHousehold Information Address 44, Holden Street Parish Great Bolton District Bolton, Bolton Eastern Administrative County Lancashire Householder 1 Name Thomas Smith Age 38 Estimated Year of Birth 1843 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Spindle Fly Maker (S&w) Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 2 Name Ruth Smith Age 33 Estimated Year of Birth 1848 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 3 Name William Smith Age 12 Estimated Year of Birth 1869 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Scholar Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 4 Name John Smith Age 10 Estimated Year of Birth 1871 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Scholar Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 5 Name Mary J Smith Age 8 Estimated Year of Birth 1873 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Scholar Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 6 Name Ruth Smith Age 5 Estimated Year of Birth 1876 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Scholar Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 7 Name Thomas Smith Age 1 Estimated Year of Birth 1880 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 8 Name Daniel Kirkman Age 40 Estimated Year of Birth 1841 Relationship to Head of Household Boarder Occupation Lab Outdoor (Gen) Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
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19 Sep 2012 11:48 |
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1891 Census Household RecordHousehold Information Address 3, Norman Street Parish Great Bolton District Bolton, Great Bolton Administrative County Lancashire
Householder 1 Name Thomas Smith Age 49 Estimated Year of Birth 1842 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Spindle & Fly Maker Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 2 Name Ruth Smith Age 44 Estimated Year of Birth 1847 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 3 Name William Smith Age 22 Estimated Year of Birth 1869 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Side Piecer Cotton Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 4 Name John Smith Age 20 Estimated Year of Birth 1871 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Side Piecer Cotton Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 5 Name Margaret J Smith Age 18 Estimated Year of Birth 1873 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 6 Name Ruth Smith Age 15 Estimated Year of Birth 1876 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Setter In Card Room Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
Householder 7 Name Thomas Smith Age 11 Estimated Year of Birth 1880 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Learning Piecer Birth Place Bolton Birth County Lancashire
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19 Sep 2012 11:53 |
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1901 Census Household RecordHousehold information Address 3 Norman St Civil Parish Bolton Rural District Town or Village or Hamlet Bolton Ecclesiastical Parish Bolton Le Moors St Marks Parliamentary Borough or Division Bolton County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Bolton Administrative County Lancashire
Householder 1 Name Ruth Smith Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 50 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Lanc Bolton Language Infirmity
Householder 2 Name Thomas Smith Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 21 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Cotton Piecer Employment Status Where Born Lanc Bolton Language Infirmity
Householder 3 Name Thomas Smith Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 54 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Spindle Maker Employment Status Where Born Lanc Bolton Language Infirmity
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19 Sep 2012 11:56 |
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1911 Census RecordPersonal Information Name Mr Thomas Smith Relationship to Head of Household Head Condition Widower Gender M Age 68 Estimated Year of Birth 1843 Occupation None Cotton Spinner Employed Y Working at Home Y Industry Out Of Work Place of Birth Lancs Bolton Enumerator Information Address 27 Parkfield Road Bolton Parish Bolton Town Bolton Type of Building Private House Number of Rooms 5 Rooms Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN23433 RG78PN1366 RD461 SD8 ED24 SN292 Administrative County Lancashire Registration District Bolton Registration Sub District Great Bolton and Lever Enumeration District 24 Reference Information Folio 583 Page 1 Piece 23433 RD number 461 SD number 8 ED number 24 Schedule 292
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19 Sep 2012 12:00 |
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possible death
Death Record Name Ruth Smith Year of Registration 1903 Quarter of Registration Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District Bolton Registration County Lancashire Age at Death: 55 Volume Number 8C Volume Page 298
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19 Sep 2012 12:08 |
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his parentes in 1871 says his occupation is sawyer on census
1871 Census Household RecordHousehold Information Address Back Of Blackhorse Street Parish Great Bolton District Bolton, Western Bolton Administrative County Lancashire
Householder 1 Name James Smith Age 52 Estimated Year of Birth 1819 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 2 Name Jane Smith Age 49 Estimated Year of Birth 1822 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 3 Name Christianna Smith Age 22 Estimated Year of Birth 1849 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 4 Name John Smith Age 15 Estimated Year of Birth 1856 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 5 Name George Frederick Smith Age 12 Estimated Year of Birth 1859 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 6 Name Mary Jane Smith Age 9 Estimated Year of Birth 1862 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 7 Name James Morris Smith Age 21 Estimated Year of Birth 1850 Relationship to Head of Household Boarder Occupation Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
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Susan
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19 Sep 2012 13:04 |
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Hello Polly Poppet
Thank you for responding,much appreciated. I have the information you wrote. My problem is Thomas,s parents. 1. Who did James marry Jane who? 2. Who were James.s Parents? :-) I would appreciate any help you can offer with these/
Regards Susi
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19 Sep 2012 13:29 |
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possible for james the father william is sawyer as is james on census
1841 Census Household RecordHousehold Information Address Dawes Street Parish Bolton District Bolton, Bolton Eastern, Great Administrative County Lancashire
Householder 1 Name Wm Smith Age 45 Estimated Year of Birth 1796 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 2 Name Betty Smith Age 45 Estimated Year of Birth 1796 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 3 Name James Smith Age 20 Estimated Year of Birth 1821 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 4 Name John Smith Age 18 Estimated Year of Birth 1823 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 5 Name Peter Smith Age 15 Estimated Year of Birth 1826 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 6 Name Betty Smith Age 15 Estimated Year of Birth 1826 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 7 Name Jane Smith Age 12 Estimated Year of Birth 1829 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 8 Name William Smith Age 8 Estimated Year of Birth 1833 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 9 Name Alice Smith Age 5 Estimated Year of Birth 1836 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
Householder 10 Name Thomas Smith Age 4 Estimated Year of Birth 1837 Relationship to Head of Household Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Lancashire Birth County Lancashire
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Susan
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19 Sep 2012 14:32 |
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Thank you very much. I will follow this up
Regards susi
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19 Sep 2012 14:40 |
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possible
Marriage Record Name James Smith Year of Marriage 1841 Quarter of Marriage Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District Bolton Registration County Lancashire Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912 Volume Number 21 Volume Page 70
married jane fletcher
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19 Sep 2012 14:41 |
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Marriage Record Name James Smith Year of Marriage 1841 Quarter of Marriage Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District Bolton Registration County Lancashire Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912 Volume Number 21 Volume Page 76
married jane jones
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19 Sep 2012 14:43 |
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Marriage Record Name James Smith Year of Marriage 1842 Quarter of Marriage Apr-May-Jun Registration District Bolton Registration County Lancashire Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912 Volume Number 21 Volume Page 65
married jane hall
im going by the date of their first born on the 1851 census
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Susan
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19 Sep 2012 15:38 |
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Thank you very much. I will follow this up
Regards susi
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Joseph
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19 Sep 2012 15:57 |
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Could be Jane ASHCROFT
1861 at 159, Black Horse Street, Great Bolton SMITH, James Head Married M 41 1820 Sawyer ALL BOLTON SMITH, Jane Wife Married F 38 1823 SMITH, Thomas Son Unmarried M 18 1843 Fly Maker Iron... SMITH, Christina Daughter Unmarried F 13 1848 Cotton Piecer SMITH, James Son M 10 1851 Scholar SMITH, John Son M 5 1856 Scholar SMITH, ... Son M 2 1859
1871 at Back Of Blackhorse Street, Great Bolton SMITH, James Head M 52 1819 Sawyer ALL BOLTON SMITH, Jane Wife F 49 1822 SMITH, Christianna Daughter F 22 1849 Piecer SMITH, John Son M 15 1856 Bleach Wks SMITH, George Frederick Son M 12 1859 Cotton Op SMITH, Mary Jane Daughter F 9 1862 SMITH, James Morris Boarder M 21 1850 Cotton Op
Births Sep 1858 Smith George Frederick Bolton 8c 286
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1851 SMITH James Western Bolton Bolton ASHCROFT
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1854 SMITH William Western Bolton Bolton ASHCROFT
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1856 SMITH John Western Bolton Bolton ASHCROFT
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1858 SMITH George F Western Bolton Bolton ASHCROFT
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19 Sep 2012 16:12 |
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Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1861 SMITH Mary J Western Bolton Bolton ASHCROFT
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