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I am trying to get the certificate for Harold Owen Gilliatt from the first world war commonwealth site but for some reason I cant get the certificate up on the screen, two questions for help please one is I have Harold Owen Gilliatt lived 8 Foundry St Horncastle Lincs died 13/10/1915 and buried Loos, can someone please pm me so that I can give you my email for you to send the certificate his father is F Gilliatt....The other question is I cant find him on the BMD site unless he was down as having another name? so I don't know when he was born I want to find him on the 1911 with a bit of help from you please, so all I have is Harold Owen dies 1915 lived in Horncastle with his parents at some time in Foundry street, is this enough help for you to give me the details from 1911 and and to get his certificate...thankyou

It's an Adobe Acrobat document so have you got Adobe installed?

Have PM'd you

This is 8 Foundry Street in 1911 census -

263 ELLMORE, William Head Married M 67 1844 Gas Stoker Sutton Lincs View
263 ELLMORE, Lydia Ann Wife Married 41 years F 68 1843 Sutton St Edmunds Lincs View
263 ELLMORE, Lydia Ann Daughter Single F 37 1874 Assisting In House Keeping Fleet Fen Lincs View

RG number: RG14
Piece: 19794
Reference: RG14PN19794 RG78PN1185 RD419 SD2 ED3 SN263
Registration District: Horncastle
Sub District: Horncastle
Enumeration District: 3
Parish: Horncastle
Address: 8 Foundry Street Horncastle
County: Lincolnshire

connected????

George H Gilliat
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1850 Horncastle,? Lincolnshire,? England
census: 1881 Rusholme,? Lancashire,? England
spouse: Frances E Gilliat


name: George H Gilliat
age: 31
gender: Male
birth year: 1850
birthplace: Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Secretary Of Imperial Insurance Co
address: 128 Dickenson Road
census place: Rusholme, Lancashire, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341934
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 3912 / 43
page number: 5

Possible 1911

Name: Harold Gilliatt
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Grayingham, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Midville
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street Address: Midville Stickney Boston
Occupation: Working On Farm
Registration district: Spilsby
Registration District Number: 420
Sub-registration district: Stickney

Frank Gilliatt 45
Caroline Gilliatt 40
Harold Gilliatt 13 born Grayingham
Alice Mary Gilliatt 9 East Halton
Eveline Gilliatt 7 born Harkstow
Frank Reginald Gilliatt 6 Harkstow
Edith Gilliatt 3 Haugh
Robert Gilliatt 11/12 born Midville

Brilliant help many thanks for all your time I have managed to down load the certificate, it needed to Adobe...thanks for that and I also think that could be them in 1911 you are all brill....

Please can you send me the image for 1911 and maybe 1901 thankyou so much

This seems to be his birth

Births Jun 1897
BURTON Harold Owen Gainsbro' 7a 708

Grayingham is in this reg district

and marriage of parents

Marriages Dec 1899
Burton Caroline Gainsbro' 7a 1611
Gilliatt Frank Gainsbro' 7a 1611

the year after Harold was born. Solved!

Brilliant thankyou wonder why he was down as Burton???

1901

Name: Harold Burton
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Stepson
Mother's Name: Caroline Gilliatt
Gender: Male
Where born: Grayingham, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Broughton
Ecclesiastical parish: Broughton St Mary
Town: Castle Thorpe
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district: Brigg

Name Age
Frank Gilliatt 32
Caroline Gilliatt 30
Edward Burton 6
Harold Burton 3
George Burton 1

Looks like this was a second marriage for Caroline.

You'll need to get Harold's birth cert to find out who his father was as it isn't Frank. The boys are 'stepsons' on the census.


EDIT - SEE BELOW

George Booth Burton was born June quarter 1899 so she didn't hang around for long before marrying again!!

Interesting - on the 1911 Frank and caroline say they have been married for 15 years (which we know isn't true) and that they have had 8 children, 2 of whom have died.

So - is Frank the father of them all but they didn't marry until after no 3 was born, or have they lied on the 1911?

Here's Frank as an infant in 1871

Name: Frank Gilliatt
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Gilliatt
Mother's Name: Alice Gilliatt
Gender: Male
Where born: Barnetby, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Elsham
Ecclesiastical parish: Elsham
Town: Elsham
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district: Brigg
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 5
Piece: 3430
Folio: 19
Page Number: 2

George Gilliatt 36
Alice Gilliatt 35
John Gilliatt 13
Eliza Gilliatt 11
Thomas Gilliatt 9
Anne Gilliatt 6
Frank Gilliatt 2
Alice Gilliatt 1

This could be death of one of the children

Deaths Dec 1901
Burton George 2 Boston 7a 248

Looks like they may have had another one after the census too

Births Dec 1913
Gilliatt Charles D B Burton Spilsby 7a 995

Looks like they got married between number 3 and number 4. This is the only Caroline born in Grayingham, and she has the right age and surname!

1871

Name: Caroline Burton
Age: 6 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Burton
Mother's Name: Mary Burton
Gender: Female
Where born: Grayingham, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Grayingham
Town: Grayingham
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Gainsborough
Sub-registration district: Scotter
ED, institution, or vessel: 93
Household schedule number: 16
Piece: 3442
Folio: 37
Page Number: 14

Joseph Burton 40
Mary Burton 33
Mary J Burton 4
Harriet Burton 3
Amey Burton 2
Caroline Burton 6 Months

1881

Name: Caroline Burton
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Burton
Mother's Name: Mary Burton
Gender: Female
Where born: Grayingham, Lincoln, England
Civil parish: Grayingham
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Street Address: Grayingham Village
Registration district: Gainsborough
Sub-registration district: Scotter

Joseph Burton 50
Mary Burton 42
Harriett Burton 13
Annie Burton 12
Caroline Burton 10
Ada Burton 9
Fanny Burton 8
Joseph I. Burton 5

Maybe George Booth Burton was NOT Caroline's son ...


I've just found this ..................

1911 Census

Name: George Booth Burton
Age in 1911: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Grandson
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Gainsborough
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street Address: Bellwood Lane Southolme Gainsborough
Occupation: School
Registration district: Gainsborough
Registration District Number: 425
Sub-registration district: Gainsborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 20153

George Burton 55
Elizeburth Burton 59
Mary Jane Burton 33
George Booth Burton 11




just out of interest ............


it looks as though George Booth was killed in WW1


UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about George Booth Burton

Name: George Booth Burton
Residence: Gainesborough
Death Date: 28 Nov 1917
Death Location: Egypt
Enlistment Location: Retford
Rank: Private
Regiment: Household Cavalry and Cavalry of the Line (incl. Yeomanry and Imperial Camel Corps)
Battalion: Notts Yeomanry (Sherwood Rangers)
Number: 275574
Type of Casualty: Died of wounds
Theatre of War: Egyptian Theatre







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