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Trying to find this gentleman help needed please

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Sidami

Sidami Report 30 Jul 2012 16:05

Wow so much info and time gone into this thankyou ladies for all your time and effort...

Janice

Janice Report 30 Jul 2012 14:23

1841

Name: Harrison Goodhand
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Elsham
Hundred: Yarborough (North Division)
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district: Brigg

Harrison Goodhand 40
Mary Goodhand 40
Elizabeth Goodhand 15
Jane Goodhand 17
Eliza Goodhand 14
William Goodhand 12
Henry Goodhand 11
Harrison Goodhand 9
Elijah Goodhand 8
Allice Goodhand 6
Ann Goodhand 11 Mo

Janice

Janice Report 30 Jul 2012 10:58

Thanks Sylvia. Serves me right for jumping to conclusions!

The most likely suspect for Edward's birth is

Edward Dawson Burton b OND1894 Gainsborough

so thought I'd try to find the marriages of Frank and Caroline's parents to see what the maiden names of their mothers are. Dawson and Owen sound as though they could be surnames used as middle names.

Caroline's parents are here:

Marriages Sep 1866

BURTON Joseph Gainsbro' 7a 1083
Thompson Mary Gainsbro 7a 1083
Wilson Mary S, Gainsbro' 7a 1083

so not very helpful!! Nothing showing on FamilySearch.

This is the most likely pair for Frank's parents:

Groom's Name: George Gillyatt
Bride's Name: Alice Goodhand
Marriage Date: 1854
Marriage Place: Elsham, Lincoln, England

Groom's Father's Name: Thomas Gillyatt
Bride's Father's Name: Harrison Goodhand

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M02813-3
System Origin: England-VR
Source Film Number: 1542178
Reference Number: 2:3F6JQ6T

Sidami

Sidami Report 30 Jul 2012 09:37

My goodness you have put so much time in this I will check it out when I et back from work

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 30 Jul 2012 01:30

Maybe George Booth Burton was NOT Caroline's son ...


I've just found this ..................

1911 Census

Name: George Booth Burton
Age in 1911: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Grandson
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Gainsborough
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street Address: Bellwood Lane Southolme Gainsborough
Occupation: School
Registration district: Gainsborough
Registration District Number: 425
Sub-registration district: Gainsborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 20153

George Burton 55
Elizeburth Burton 59
Mary Jane Burton 33
George Booth Burton 11




just out of interest ............


it looks as though George Booth was killed in WW1


UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about George Booth Burton

Name: George Booth Burton
Residence: Gainesborough
Death Date: 28 Nov 1917
Death Location: Egypt
Enlistment Location: Retford
Rank: Private
Regiment: Household Cavalry and Cavalry of the Line (incl. Yeomanry and Imperial Camel Corps)
Battalion: Notts Yeomanry (Sherwood Rangers)
Number: 275574
Type of Casualty: Died of wounds
Theatre of War: Egyptian Theatre







sylvia

Janice

Janice Report 30 Jul 2012 00:02

1881

Name: Caroline Burton
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Burton
Mother's Name: Mary Burton
Gender: Female
Where born: Grayingham, Lincoln, England
Civil parish: Grayingham
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Street Address: Grayingham Village
Registration district: Gainsborough
Sub-registration district: Scotter

Joseph Burton 50
Mary Burton 42
Harriett Burton 13
Annie Burton 12
Caroline Burton 10
Ada Burton 9
Fanny Burton 8
Joseph I. Burton 5

Janice

Janice Report 30 Jul 2012 00:00

Looks like they got married between number 3 and number 4. This is the only Caroline born in Grayingham, and she has the right age and surname!

1871

Name: Caroline Burton
Age: 6 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Burton
Mother's Name: Mary Burton
Gender: Female
Where born: Grayingham, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Grayingham
Town: Grayingham
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Gainsborough
Sub-registration district: Scotter
ED, institution, or vessel: 93
Household schedule number: 16
Piece: 3442
Folio: 37
Page Number: 14

Joseph Burton 40
Mary Burton 33
Mary J Burton 4
Harriet Burton 3
Amey Burton 2
Caroline Burton 6 Months

Janice

Janice Report 29 Jul 2012 23:45

Looks like they may have had another one after the census too

Births Dec 1913
Gilliatt Charles D B Burton Spilsby 7a 995

Janice

Janice Report 29 Jul 2012 23:43

This could be death of one of the children

Deaths Dec 1901
Burton George 2 Boston 7a 248

Janice

Janice Report 29 Jul 2012 23:40

Here's Frank as an infant in 1871

Name: Frank Gilliatt
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George Gilliatt
Mother's Name: Alice Gilliatt
Gender: Male
Where born: Barnetby, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Elsham
Ecclesiastical parish: Elsham
Town: Elsham
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district: Brigg
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 5
Piece: 3430
Folio: 19
Page Number: 2

George Gilliatt 36
Alice Gilliatt 35
John Gilliatt 13
Eliza Gilliatt 11
Thomas Gilliatt 9
Anne Gilliatt 6
Frank Gilliatt 2
Alice Gilliatt 1

Janice

Janice Report 29 Jul 2012 23:35

Interesting - on the 1911 Frank and caroline say they have been married for 15 years (which we know isn't true) and that they have had 8 children, 2 of whom have died.

So - is Frank the father of them all but they didn't marry until after no 3 was born, or have they lied on the 1911?

Janice

Janice Report 29 Jul 2012 23:28

George Booth Burton was born June quarter 1899 so she didn't hang around for long before marrying again!!

Janice

Janice Report 29 Jul 2012 23:08

Looks like this was a second marriage for Caroline.

You'll need to get Harold's birth cert to find out who his father was as it isn't Frank. The boys are 'stepsons' on the census.


EDIT - SEE BELOW

Janice

Janice Report 29 Jul 2012 23:08

1901

Name: Harold Burton
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Stepson
Mother's Name: Caroline Gilliatt
Gender: Male
Where born: Grayingham, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Broughton
Ecclesiastical parish: Broughton St Mary
Town: Castle Thorpe
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub-registration district: Brigg

Name Age
Frank Gilliatt 32
Caroline Gilliatt 30
Edward Burton 6
Harold Burton 3
George Burton 1

Sidami

Sidami Report 29 Jul 2012 23:08

Brilliant thankyou wonder why he was down as Burton???

Janice

Janice Report 29 Jul 2012 23:05

and marriage of parents

Marriages Dec 1899
Burton Caroline Gainsbro' 7a 1611
Gilliatt Frank Gainsbro' 7a 1611

the year after Harold was born. Solved!

Janice

Janice Report 29 Jul 2012 23:03

This seems to be his birth

Births Jun 1897
BURTON Harold Owen Gainsbro' 7a 708

Grayingham is in this reg district

Sidami

Sidami Report 29 Jul 2012 23:03

Please can you send me the image for 1911 and maybe 1901 thankyou so much

Sidami

Sidami Report 29 Jul 2012 23:02

Brilliant help many thanks for all your time I have managed to down load the certificate, it needed to Adobe...thanks for that and I also think that could be them in 1911 you are all brill....

Janice

Janice Report 29 Jul 2012 22:59

Possible 1911

Name: Harold Gilliatt
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Grayingham, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Midville
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street Address: Midville Stickney Boston
Occupation: Working On Farm
Registration district: Spilsby
Registration District Number: 420
Sub-registration district: Stickney

Frank Gilliatt 45
Caroline Gilliatt 40
Harold Gilliatt 13 born Grayingham
Alice Mary Gilliatt 9 East Halton
Eveline Gilliatt 7 born Harkstow
Frank Reginald Gilliatt 6 Harkstow
Edith Gilliatt 3 Haugh
Robert Gilliatt 11/12 born Midville