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Lynne

Lynne Report 22 Jul 2012 05:38

Can anyone help?

Henry GOODSELL (GUTSEL) (dob unknown) baptised 10/4/1791 @ Ewhurst, Sussex.

Sited reference for baptism of Henry with parents Stephen and Martha.
Also seen record for baptism with parents Stephen and Mary.

Any assistance as to who parents are would be appreciated.

:-S

Penny

Penny Report 22 Jul 2012 06:00

What are the two xources, specifically?

Mary & Martha are often interchanged

Lynne

Lynne Report 22 Jul 2012 06:15

Hi

Sources were ancestry, family search, and Sussex on-line parish.

Other information that is causing confusion is :
Stephen's marriage to Martha SIMMONS 1/4/1779
Stephen's marriage to Mary WEEKES 9/6/1790

Further complication Stephen & Mary had another child in Kent 1810.

:-S

Susan

Susan Report 22 Jul 2012 07:23

Is this the family .. For Ref only

All born the same area

1841 England Census
about Henry Goodsell Name: Henry Goodsell
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Sussex, England

Civil parish: Ewhurst
Hundred: Staple
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Ewhurst
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1109
Book: 10
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Goodsell 45
Mary Goodsell 30
Walter Goodsell 15
Thomas Goodsell 14
Joseph Goodsell 6
Sophia Goodsell 6 Mo
Jane Manser 11


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jul 2012 12:12

??????


Henry Goodsell
England and Wales Census, 1861
birth: 1791 Ewhurst,? Sussex
census: 1861 Ewhurst,? Sussex,? England


name: Henry Goodsell
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 70
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Ewhurst, Sussex
record type: Household
registration district: Battle
sub-district: 2 Ewhurst
ecclesiastical parish: Chichester
civil parish: Ewhurst
county: Sussex

Alice Goodsell
England and Wales Census, 1861
birth: 1789 Ewhurst,? Sussex
census: 1861 Ewhurst,? Sussex,? England


name: Alice Goodsell
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Female
age: 72
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: Ewhurst, Sussex
record type: Household
registration district: Battle
sub-district: 2 Ewhurst
civil parish: Ewhurst
county: Sussex

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jul 2012 12:14

Henry Goodsell
England and Wales Census, 1841
birth: 1796 Sussex
census: 1841 Ewhurst,? Sussex,? England


name: Henry Goodsell
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 45
birthplace: Sussex
record type: Household
registration district: Battle
sub-district: Ewhurst
civil parish: Ewhurst
county: Sussex

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jul 2012 12:14

????

Stephen Goodsell
England and Wales Census, 1841
birth: 1791 Sussex
census: 1841 Ewhurst,? Sussex,? England


name: Stephen Goodsell
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Male
age: 50
birthplace: Sussex
record type: Household
registration district: Battle
sub-district: Ewhurst
civil parish: Ewhurst
county: Sussex

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jul 2012 12:16

so mother was Martha Simmonds






name: Ann /Goodsall/ [1]
gender: Female
birth: 5 AUG 1781
Ewhurst, Sussex, England [1]
death: 8 MAR 1852
Bodiam, Sussex, England [1]


Parents
father: Stephen /Goodsall/
mother: Martha /Simmons/

Marriages (1)
spouse: John /Osborne/
marriage: 23 FEB 1805
Ewhurst, Sussex, England [1]
Hide children (9)

child 1: William /Osborne/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1807
Ewhurst, Sussex, England
CHRISTENING 18 JAN 1807
Ewhurst, Sussex, England
EMIGRATION 26 JUL 1841
Arrived Australia on Queen Victoria

child 2: Thomas /Osborne/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1809
Ewhurst, Sussex, England
CHRISTENING 9 APR 1809
Ewhurst, Sussex, England
DEATH JUN 1836
Bodiam, Sussex, England
BURIAL 27 JUN 1836
Bodiam, Sussex, England

child 3: John /Osborne/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1816
Ewhurst, Sussex, England
CHRISTENING 2 JUN 1816
Ewhurst, Sussex, England
EMIGRATION 27 SEP 1839
Arrived Australia on Neptune

child 4: Eliza /Osborne/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1824
Bodiam, Sussex, England
CHRISTENING 5 SEP 1824
Bodiam, Sussex, England
DEATH 25 MAY 1848
Bodiam, Sussex, England

child 5: Eleanor /Osborne/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1827

CHRISTENING 2 SEP 1827
Bodiam, Sussex, England

child 6: Frances /Osborne/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1818
Ewhurst, Sussex, England
CHRISTENING 7 JUN 1818
Ewhurst, Sussex, England
DEATH 23 MAR 1887
Durham, Quebec, Canada
EMIGRATION ABT 1841
To Quebec Province, Canada

child 7: Sarah Ann /Osborne/
gender: Female
BIRTH 1822
Bodiam, Sussex, England
CHRISTENING 10 NOV 1822
Bodiam, Sussex, England

child 8: Henry /Osborne/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1811
Ewhurst, Sussex, England
CHRISTENING 1 DEC 1811
Ewhurst, Sussex, England
Remarried ABT 1837
This is based on 1851 Sandhurst Census

child 9: Jesse /Osborne/
gender: Male
BIRTH 1820
Bodiam, Sussex, England
CHRISTENING 30 JUL 1820
Bodiam, Sussex, England

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jul 2012 12:17

name: Stephen /Goodsall/ [1]
gender: Male


Marriages (1)
spouse: Martha /Simmons/
Hide children (1)

child 1: Ann /Goodsall/
gender: Female
BIRTH 5 AUG 1781
Ewhurst, Sussex, England
DEATH 8 MAR 1852
Bodiam, Sussex, England

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Jul 2012 12:18

Stephen Goodsall
England and Wales Census, 1861
birth: 1793 Ewhurst,? Sussex
census: 1861 Tenterden,? Tenterden,? Kent,? England


name: Stephen Goodsall
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 68
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Ewhurst, Sussex
record type: Household
registration district: Tenterden
sub-district: 2 Tenterden
ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury
civil parish: Tenterden
county: Kent

Lynne

Lynne Report 23 Jul 2012 10:58

Hi all,

Thank you both for your help.

Susan Yes this is the right family.
Ann - Thank you for the Osbournes. I didn't have these.

1841 & 1851 census show correct Henry being researched. I need to check the 1861 census again as he died in 1868..

Stephen Goodsell in Kent (1861 census) is the son of Stephen & Mary.

I am still confused as to whom Henry's correct parents are.

Regards,

Lynne (in Australia)


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Jul 2012 11:15

George Goodsell
(1775-1854)
Martha Ashdown
(1779-1854)
Robert Glover
(Abt 1751-1824)
Hannah Bolton
(Abt 1774-1817)

Edmund Goodsell
(1809-1864)

Charlotte Glover
(1810-1882)


William Goodsell
(1840-1912)



Family Links
Spouses/Children:
Harriet Jenner


Arthur Goodsell
Julia Ann Goodsell+
Minnie Goodsell+
Elizabeth Goodsell
Carlos Goodsell
Mary Jane Goodsell
Albert William Goodsell
Henry Edward Goodsell
Alfred Goodsell




William Goodsell
Born: 1840, Ewhurst, East Sussex
Christened: 5 Jan 1840, St James The Great, Ewhurst, East Sussex 4 5 6
Marriage: Harriet Jenner on 1 May 1865 in St Mary, Northiam, East Sussex 1 2 3
Died: 10 Feb 1912, Union Workhouse, Battle, Sussex at age 72 7 8
Buried: 15 Feb 1912, St James The Great, Ewhurst, East Sussex 3
Cause of his death was Chronic Rheumatism, Heart Failure certified by D. Brough M.B.


Medical Notes:

Informant J W Keene Master Union Workhouse, Battle

Christening Notes:

William Goodsale son of Edmund (Lab) & Charlotte (ESRO)



Death Notes:

Farm Labourer of Ewhurst aged 74 years

Burial Notes:

Died aged 74 years Union Workhouse Battle


Noted events in his life were:

• Census, 1841, Madamses, Ewhurst, Sussex. 5 Edmund Goodsell Head age 30 Ag Lab born Sussex
Charlotte Goodsell Wife age 30 born Sussex
Charlotte Goodsell Dau age 10 born Sussex
Edmond Goodsell Son age 8 born Sussex
Harriett Goodsell Dau age 4 born Sussex
Alice Goodsell Dau age 2 born Sussex
William Goodsell Son age 1 born Sussex
George Goodsell Father age 60 born Sussex


• Census: Scholar, 1851, 48 Shoreham, Ewhurst, Sussex. 5 Edmond Goodsell Head age 42 Ag Lab born Ewhurst, Sussex
Charlotte Goodsell Wife age 41 born Ewhurst, Sussex
Edmond Goodsell Son age 18 Ag Lab born Ewhurst, Sussex
Alice Goodsell Daughter age 12 born Ewhurst, Sussex
William Goodsell Son age 11 Scholar born Ewhurst, Sussex
Thomas Goodsell Son age 9 Scholar born Ewhurst, Sussex
Henry Goodsell Son age 6 Scholar born Ewhurst, Sussex
Frederick Goodsell Son age 3 born Ewhurst, Sussex
Isaac Goodsell Son age 1 month born Ewhurst, Sussex
George Goodsell Father married age 76 Letter Carrier born Ewhurst, Sussex

• Census: Ag Lab, 1861, Staplecross, Ewhurst, Sussex. 5 Edmund Goodsell Head age 52 Ag Lab born Ewhurst, Sussex
Charlotte Goodsell Wife age 51 born Ewhurst, Sussex
Alice Goodsell Daughter unmarried age 22 Ag Lab born Ewhurst, Sussex
William Goodsell Son unmarried age 21 Ag Lab born Ewhurst, Sussex
Thomas Goodsell Son age 19 Ag Lab born Ewhurst, Sussex
Henry Goodsell Son age 17 Ag Lab born Ewhurst, Sussex
Frederick Goodsell Son age 15 Ag Lab born Ewhurst, Sussex
Isaac Goodsell Son age 13 Ag Lab born Ewhurst, Sussex
Robert Wood Gr Son age 6 born Robertsbridge, Sussex
Ann Goodsell Gr Daur age 6 months born Ewhurst, Sussex

• WITN: Witness: William witnessed the death of Edmund Goodsell, 22 Oct 1864, Ewhurst, East Sussex.


• Occupation: Gardenerr, 1865. 2

• Occupation: Farm Labourer, 1865. 9 daughter Julia's birth certificate

• Occupation: Labourer, 1885. 10 daughter Julia's marriage certificate

• Census: Gardener not Domestic, 1901, Staplecross, Ewhurst, Sussex. 11 William Goodsell Serv to Eleanor E C Court aged 61 Gardener not Domestic born Ewhurst, Sussex



William married Harriet Jenner, daughter of Henry Jenner and Harriet Colby, on 1 May 1865 in St Mary, Northiam, East Sussex.1 2 3 (Harriet Jenner was born in 1839 in Benenden, Kent, christened on 21 Jul 1839 in St George, Benenden, Kent 12 13 14 and died on 7 Dec 1930 in Dog Lane, Ewhurst, Sussex 8 15.) The cause of her death was (a) Hypostatic Pneumonia (b) Senility No PM Certified by Charles Kerr MB.

Noted events in their marriage were:

• ADDR: Address, 1865, Northiam, East Sussex. 2 9

• Census: Gardener, 1871, Ranger's Row, Northiam, Sussex. 5 William Goodsell Head age 31 born Ewhurst, Sussex
Harriett Goodsell Wife age 31 born Benenden, Kent
Arthur Goodsell Son age 8 born Cranbrook, Kent
Julia A Goodsell Daughter age 5 born Northiam, Sussex
Minnie Goodsell Daughter age 3 born Northiam, Sussex
Elizabeth Goodsell Daughter age 1 born Northiam, Sussex


• Census: Farm Labourer, 1881, Whatlington, East Sussex. 16 William GOODSELL Head M Male age 41 born Ewhurst, Sussex Farm Labourer
Harriett GOODSELL Wife M Female age 40 born Benenden, Kent
Arthur GOODSELL Son U Male age 18 born Cranbrook, Kent Farm Labourer Minnie GOODSELL Daur Female age 13 born Northiam, Sussex Scholar
Elizabeth GOODSELL Daur Female age 11 born Northiam, Sussex Scholar
Carlos GOODSELL Son Male age 9 born Beckley, Sussex Scholar
Mary J. GOODSELL Daur Female age 7 born Ewhurst, Sussex Scholar
Albert Wm. GOODSELL Son Male age 5 born Whatlington, Sussex Scholar
Henry Edwd. GOODSELL Son Male age 2 born Whatlington, Sussex


• Census: Agric Laborer (Em'ee), 1891, Staplecross, Ewhurst, Sussex. 17 William Goodsell Head age 51 Agric Laborer born Ewhurst, Sussex
Harriett Goodsell Wife age 51 born Benenden, Kent
Carlos Goodsell Son age 19 Agric Laborer born Beckley, Sussex
Albert Goodsell Son age 14 Agric Laborer born Whatlington, Sussex
Alfred Goodsell Son age 9 Scholar born Whatlington, Sussex




Marriage Notes:

William Goodsell Bachelor age 25 Gardener of Northiam father Edmund Goodsell Bailiff
Harriett Jenner Spinster age 25 of Northiam father Henry Jenner Laborer
by Banns Witnesses Robert Dunek & Hannah Dunek

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Jul 2012 11:16

1 Family Records Centre, Jun 1865 Rye dist vol 2b page 10.

2 Marriage Certificate.

3 East Sussex Records Office, from parish register.

4 www.familysearch.org.

5 East Sussex Records Office.

6 Ancestry.co.uk.

7 www.census.pro.gov.uk.

8 Death Certificate.

9 Birth Certificate, daughter Julia's.

10 Marriage Certificate, daughter Julia's.

11 Ancestry.co.uk, RG13/877.

12 www.jenner-kent.com/jentree.

13 www.gencircles.com.

14 Parish Registers - Vol 3.

15 www.thegenealogist.co.uk, Battle dist vol 2b page 80.

16 www.familysearch.org, Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1033 / 61 Page Number 9.

17 FreeCEN.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Jul 2012 11:17

all the above from this site

Ancestors of William Goodsell - RootsWeb: Freepages
Thomas Goodsell Son age 19 Ag Lab born Ewhurst, Sussex Henry Goodsell Son age 17 Ag Lab born Ewhurst, Sussex Frederick Goodsell Son age 15 Ag Lab born Ewhurst, Sussex
freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com?/~bobmorris/521.htm - Cached

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Jul 2012 11:18

Ewhurst Householders 1863
Ewhurst, Sussex, England: 0: 0: December 29, 1938: 2429262: 73: 90: 33174: West Bridgeford ... Henry Goodsell: HenryAAAAGoodsell: GoodsellAAAAHenry : 0: April 14, 1805: 2380426
bootsbootes.com/webtrees/?source.php?sid=S3053&ged=pab.ged - Cached

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Jul 2012 11:19

Henry Goodsell 1805–1891
Bootes and Gowland families ... For technical support or genealogy questions, please contact BootsBootes
bootsbootes.com/webtrees/?individual.php?pid=I7900&ged=... - Cached

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Jul 2012 11:20

view all 16
Lucy Willard's Timeline
1805 June 15, 1805 Birth of Lucy
East Sussex, United Kingdom

1827 October 20, 1827
Age 22 Marriage of Lucy Willard to Henry Goodsell
Ewhurst,Sussex,England

1828 1828
Age 23 Birth of Henry Goodsell

1829 1829
Age 23 Birth of Thomas Goodsell

1831 July 25, 1831
Age 26 Birth of Joseph Goodsell
Ewhurst, East Sussex, UK

1833 August 25, 1833
Age 28 Birth of Harriet Goodsell
Sedlescombe, East Sussex, UK

1835 1835
Age 29 Birth of William Goodsell

1838 July 23, 1838
- November 27, 1838
Age 33 emigrated on 7/23/1838 via Lady Nugent
England, United Kingdom

1840 1840
Age 34 Birth of Edward Goodsell
Illawarra, NSW, Australia

1841 July 24, 1841
Age 36 Birth of Jesse Goodsell
Sutton Forest, NSW, Australia

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Jul 2012 11:21

the above from this

Lucy Willard (1805 - 1886) - Genealogy - Family Trees ...
View Lucy Willard's complete profile: See if you ... Marriage of Lucy Willard to Henry Goodsell. Ewhurst,Sussex,England
www.geni.com/people/Lucy-Willard/?6000000003862352709

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Jul 2012 11:22

Father: Charles WATERS
Mother: Martha Mary GOODSELL
Birth: 1890, Ewhurst, Sussex, England


Ancestors of Agnes WATERS
/-John WATERS
/-John WATERS
| \-Mary DAWSON
/-Charles WATERS
| \-Jane BOXALL
Agnes WATERS
| /-Henry GOODSELL
| /-Walter GOODSELL
| | \- MARY
\-Martha Mary GOODSELL
\-Eliza BOURNE


Agnes WATERS - James WATERS - Free Hosting, Free Web Hosting ...
Baptism: 12 JUL 1835, Ewhurst, Sussex, England; Ancestors of Ann Maria WATERS ... Jane BOXALL Frank WATERS | /-Henry GOODSELL | /-Walter ...
www.webng.com/rspksc/tree/people/?p000005i.htm - Cached

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Jul 2012 11:24

Goodsell Wholohan Huolohan Hoe
Henry GOODSELL and Lucy WILLARD were married on 20 Oct 1827 in Ewhurst Sussex England. Children were: Henry GOODSELL, Thomas GOODSELL, Joseph GOODSELL, Harriet GOODSELL ...
goodsell.spaceports.com/allfamily/?b55.htm - Cached