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Ellen Primrose Marshall

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elizaBETH

elizaBETH Report 18 Jul 2012 09:59

My friend who is a grandaughter of Ellen Primrose is trying to find details of Ellens marriage to David or Frederick Marshall,this was possibly Elen first marriage.Does anyone know anything about this amarriage as we cannot find anything on any site.
Thanks in anticipation af any help.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Jul 2012 10:02

Hi Elizabeth and welcome to the boards.

When and where was Ellen born?

Do you know her maiden name?

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Jul 2012 10:06

have you tried FreeBMD ?

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Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Jul 2012 10:08

your friends parent birth cert will give Ellens maiden name .

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Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Jul 2012 10:09

is this Ellen??

Name: Ellen P Marshall
Birth Date: abt 1851
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1926
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Chelmsford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 639

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Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 18 Jul 2012 10:10

???????
Births Dec 1886

Marshall Ellen Primrose .. Aylesbury

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Jul 2012 10:10

PM from Elizabeth....

Hi
Ellen Primrose was born Ellen Primrose Kight in Birkenhead in 1896.We know she later lived in Oldham before going to Australia.

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Jul 2012 10:11

Births Jun 1896 (>99%)
Knight Ellen Primrose Birkenhead 8a 509

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elizaBETH

elizaBETH Report 18 Jul 2012 10:16

We have her birth.it is the marriage my friend is trying to find.She can track Ellen Primrose but not David or Frederick.There were at least 3 children born during this marriage.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Jul 2012 10:17

Did she marry in Australia?

I posted her birth to show that her surname was not "Kight"

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Jul 2012 10:17

so she married in Australia????

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Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Jul 2012 10:19

1911 census transcription details for: D 46 Queens Buildings Birkenhead

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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN22000 RG78PN1308 RD452 SD1 ED43 SN96
Reg. District: Birkenhead
Sub District: Birkenhead
Parish: Birkenhead
Enum. District: 43
Address: D 46 Queens Buildings Birkenhead
County: Cheshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
KNIGHT, Ethel Wife Married F 34 1877 Laundress Birkenhead Cheshire
KNIGHT, Ellen Primrose Daughter Single F 15 1896 Birkenhead Cheshire
KNIGHT, Ethel F Daughter F 7 1904 Birkenhead Cheshire
KNIGHT, George H Son M 4 1907 Birkenhead Cheshire
KNIGHT, Eileen Daughter F 1 1910 Birkenhead Cheshire

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Jul 2012 10:30

PM from Elizabeth...

Not sure about that but she did take some children to Australia with her and possibly had more born there.The other names my friend knows were associated with Ellen Primrose were Fogg and Farrell

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Jul 2012 10:42

Fogg.........was her Mothers maiden name....

1901 England Census
about Ellen P Knight
Name: Ellen P Knight
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

Civil parish: Birkenhead
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Birkenhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 123
Piece: 3393
Folio: 184
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
William H Fogg 55
Elizabeth Fogg 51
William H Knight 6
Ellen P Knight 4

Her parents marriage...

Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%)
Fogg Ethel Liverpool 8b 170
Knight William Kay Liverpool 8b 170






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elizaBETH

elizaBETH Report 18 Jul 2012 10:48

Yes -you have the right family

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Jul 2012 10:53

I am not seeing a Knight/Marshall marriage in England or Wales.

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elizaBETH

elizaBETH Report 18 Jul 2012 11:09

No neither can we but my friend has her dads birth certificate which gives fathers name as marshall and mothers maiden name so it does look as if they were married.There is some stuff on the internet regarding Ellen Primrose but nothing about this marriage.My friends dad was born in Birkenhead and his sister in Oldham but my friend does not know anything about another child apart from the fact that he died aged about 3.We cannot even find anything about her grandfather,on 1 birth certificate his name is given as David Marshall but on her aunts birth certificate it is down as Frederick.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Jul 2012 11:23

Do you have details of the children that went to Australia with Ellen?

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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 18 Jul 2012 11:26

It is not unusual for a Fathers name to be entered on a birth cert...even though the parents weren't married.

I purchased birth certificates for two brothers last month. Both certificates gave the same surname of the Father...but the first name was different. The first son was actually illegitimate.

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elizaBETH

elizaBETH Report 18 Jul 2012 11:30

No sorry I don't and my friend is out all day.I will speak to her tonight and let you know but I know they were not the 3 children were were named Marshall,they were Ronald born 1917 , Doren was the child born later in Oldham and the third child was name Michael but that is all my friend knows about him

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