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Looking for the wife of James Gafney He was born about 1830 and had a child percy Leslie not sure if there was any other children any help would be appreciated

Thank you
Kath

Which census have you found him on ?

Born where ?

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Percy L Gafney
Name: Percy L Gafney
Mother's Maiden Name: Monday
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1913
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 747 (click to see others on page)

Parents marriage for this birth

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%)
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GAFNEY James William Portsmouth 2b 982
MENDAY Mary Portsmouth 2b 982


Parents 1911

GAFNEY, James William Head Married M 26 1885 French Polishings Kenington London VIEW
GAFNEY, Mary Wife Married2 years F 28 1883 Buckland Buckinghanshire VIEW
GAFNEY, Phyllis Irene Daughter F 1 1910 Portsmouth Hants VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 5532
Reference: RG14PN5532 RG78PN252 RD90 SD2 ED11 SN217
Registration District: Portsmouth
Sub District: Kingston and East Southsea
Enumeration District: 11
Parish: Portsmouth
Address: 8 Percy Road Southsea
County: Hampshire



Andy

Have you got the date correct? The birth that Andrew has posted means that the father would have been about 83 years old!

Several entries for James b1830 with wife Ann but not so far with a son called Percy

parents of percy posted above 1911
GAFNEY, James William Head Married M 26 1885 French Polishings Kenington London VIEW
GAFNEY, Mary Wife Married2 years F 28 1883 Buckland Buckinghanshire VIEW
GAFNEY, Phyllis Irene Daughter F 1 1910 Portsmouth Hants VIEW

RG number: RG14

Piece: 5532

Reference: RG14PN5532 RG78PN252 RD90 SD2 ED11 SN217

Registration District: Portsmouth

Sub District: Kingston and East Southsea

Enumeration District: 11

Parish: Portsmouth

Address: 8 Percy Road Southsea

County: Hampshire

HE COULD NOT HAVE BEEN BORN 1830 ISH, COULD HE

MARRAIGE FOR JAMES GAFNEY TO MARY MENDAY 1908 PORTSMOUTH

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: James William Gafney
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: Dec 29th 1884
Baptism Date: 11 Nov 1886
Father's Name: James Gafney <<French polisher
Mother's name: Eliza Sarah Gafney
Parish or Poor Law Union: Southwark St Agnes
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers



1901 England Census
about James W Gafney
Name: James W Gafney
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Gafney
Mother's name: Eliza S Gafney
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, London, England

Civil parish: Enfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Enfield St Andrew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Enfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 62
Piece: 1272
Folio: 81
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
James Gafney 45 <<French polisher
Eliza S Gafney 45
Eliza A Gafney 19
Alice B Gafney 18
James W Gafney 16 <<Shop boy
Florence E Gafney 14
Ada L Gafney 12
Alfred G Gafney 9

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: James William Gaffney
Probate Date: 10 Aug 1944
Death Date: 26 Mar 1944
Death Place: London, England << 30 Auckland House, Bloemfontein Road
Registry: Llandudno

£417 14s 1d to widow Mary Gafney

Have you got your James's mixed up ?

Here's one born 1830 but no Percy L born until 1913


Household: 1881

James GAFNEY Head M Male 51 Lancaster, Lancashire, England French Polisher (Master)
Ann GAFNEY Wife M Female 49 Newington, Surrey, England
John Richard GAFNEY Son U Male 20 Kennington, Surrey, England
Alfred GAFNEY Son U Male 17 Camberwell, Surrey, England
William Edward GAFNEY Son U Male 15 Camberwell, Surrey, England

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Dwelling No 39 Farmers Road
Census Place Newington, Surrey, England

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1847-1965
Name: Percy Leslie Gafney
Electoral Year: 1935
Parliamentary Division: Hammersmith <<<11 Leana Gardens
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham

Living with: James William, Mary and Phyllis Gafney. Also a few lodgers by the looks of it

Hi all

Thank you for all the information James was a French polisher by trade and Percy was His son born hammer smith Percy wife was Florance new berry born Farwood cross Colyton Devon I have no information on her as she was adopted I will look through what you have all found for me and c double check the info thank again

Would any f you no how I would find more out about Florance ?

Kath

hi Ginns

Phyllis Gafney was Percy sister which I have had confirmed and Leana garden rings bells I remember my husband talking about leans garden so your info is differently right thank you

This is marriage for Percy and gives 2 surnmaes for Florance. Was this her second marriage?

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1935 (>99%)
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Gafney Percy L Newberry Hammersmith 1a 886
Gafney Percy L Hill Hammersmith 1a 886
Hill Florence B Gafney Hammersmith 1a 886
Newbery Florence B Gafney Hammersmith 1a 886


Andy

Please may I summarise?

Question asked was:- Looking for the wife of James Gafney He was born about 1830 and had a child percy Leslie not sure if there was any other children any help would be appreciated


NO Percy Leslie Gafney found with father James Gafney born ca 1830


A Percy Leslie Gafney HAS been found, born Dec quarter 1913

Putative father surmised to be James William Gafney, b.1885, Kenington London
Putative mother surmised to be Mary Menday, b.1883 Buckland Buckinghamshire

James William and Mary married in 1908 in Portsmouth



Can this James William be taken back to the James Gafney born ca 1830? ie, can JWg be the grandson, or gt grandson of JG?



I fear that Katherine has most definitely got her generations mixed up .............. hopefully it will be the same family!





sylvia

Just working back, this would be the 1891 for James William (minus middle name):

GAFNEY, James Head Married M 35 1856 French Polisher Lambeth, London
GAFNEY, Eliza S Wife Married F 35 1856 Lambeth, London
GAFNEY, Eliza Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar Walworth, London
GAFNEY, Alice Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Walworth, London
GAFNEY, James Son M 6 1885 Scholar Newington, London <<
GAFNEY, Florence Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar Newington, London
GAFNEY, Ada Daughter F 2 1889 Enfield, Middlesex

Piece: 1085 Folio: 104 Page: 39
Registration District: Edmonton
Civil Parish: Enfield

Address: 64, Sixth Avenue, Enfield County: Middlesex

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Percy Leslie Gafney
Birth Date: 29 Aug 1913
Date of Registration: Feb 1985
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Sutton
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 15
Page: 377

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Florence B Gafney
Birth Date: abt 1913
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1964
Age at Death: 51
Registration district: Hammersmith
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 779

Looks like Florence may have been born out of marriage, looking at the mothers maiden name

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Florence B Newbery
Mother's Maiden Name: Newbery
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1913
Registration district: Axminster
Inferred County: Devon, Dorset
Volume: 5b
Page: 16

You need the certificate to check if the father is named. If not at least you will have the mothers full name and address

Hi Andrew,

Your are right Florance did have 2surnames I now remember my husband saying that One day he remembers a young man came to their home and when she opened the door he said he was her brother but she said nothing and close the door that was all the contact she had was just after that that my husband found out her surname was once Hill

Ginns I will send for the certificate I do no she was born out of wed lock

Sylviain Canada

I will double check in got on James you may be right I may have got confused it wouldn't be the first time this can be confusing at time

Once agin I would like to thank you all for the information

Kath

Hi sylva,

My mistake I've just relished i put the wrong date on my 1st thread it should have been born abt 1890 sorry if I've caused you guys so much confusion must make sure i ware my glasses more :) so the one you have found looks like the one I need Percy is right as that was my husband father can you find a phyllis in this family ?

Regards

Kath