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Kevin

Kevin Report 12 Jun 2012 23:13

My grandfather's name was George Henry Miller born 03/08/1914, his parents were George Henry Miller born 04/07/1881 and Mary Margaret Morris born 17/09/1890. On their marriage certificate it states that the father of Charles Miller. Although I believe that the father was George Henry Miller, who married Rosina Davey.
Can someone help me to solve this

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Jun 2012 23:17

Location ?

Why do you think his father is different than it says on his marriage cert ?

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Jun 2012 23:20

So its Wales


Marriages Sep 1913 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Miller George H - Morris- Neath 11a 1890
Morris Mary M -Miller - Neath 11a 1890

patchem

patchem Report 12 Jun 2012 23:20

Just for ref:
Births Sep 1914
Miller George H Morris Neath 11a 2206

Are the family Welsh, or just the most recent marriage and birth?

Added:
There is a George Miller, 1881, born Bristol in Kevin's tree.
Births Sep 1881
MILLER George Henry Bristol 6a 3

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Jun 2012 23:25


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Marriages Dec 1877 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Brock Mary Alice Bedminster 5c 1184
DAVY Rosina Bedminster 5c 1184
Goodland Edwin Bedminster 5c 1184
Miller George Henry Bedminster 5c 1184

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Jun 2012 23:29

The George Henry son of George and Rosina couldn't have been born July 1881

1881 census taken 3rd April and he's already 1 year old


Household: 1881

George H. MILLER Head M Male 23 Bristol, Gloucester, England Painter (Out Of Employ)
Rosina MILLER Wife M Female 23 Plymouth, Devon, England Stay Cottoner
Florence E. MILLER Daur Female 3 Bedminster, Somerset, England
George Hy. MILLER Son Male 1 Bedminster, Somerset, England


Dwelling 25 Princess St
Census Place Bedminster, Somerset, England

Kevin

Kevin Report 12 Jun 2012 23:32

The reason that I have been confused is that I was always told that my grandfather & great grandfather were called George Henry Miller. Then my great great grandfather was Charles Miller. Although I can't find the connection, except if I work out 3 x George Henry Miller's & then a Charles Miller.

patchem

patchem Report 12 Jun 2012 23:32

This is the Bedminster one:
Births Mar 1880
Miller George Henry Bedminster 5c 724

patchem

patchem Report 12 Jun 2012 23:33

Never believe what you are told. Get the documents.

Just for ref:
1911
MORRIS, David Head Widower M 49 1862 Colliery Labourer Above Ground Narberth Pembroke
MORRIS, Thomas J Son Single M 19 1892 Colliery Haulier Glynneath Glam
MORRIS, Mary Margaret Daughter Single F 21 1890 Glynneath Glam
MORRIS, Dd George Illegitimate M 3 1908 Glynneath Glam

RG number: RG14 Piece: 32648 Reference: RG14PN32648 RG78PN1863 RD592 SD2 ED30 SN19

Registration District: Neath Sub District: Neath Enumeration District: 30
Parish: Neath Higher Address: Penmanchine Cottages Glynneath
County: Glamorganshire

1 child born, 1 living, crossed out next to Mary Margaret

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Jun 2012 23:36

" I was always told that my grandfather & great grandfather were called George Henry Miller. Then my great great grandfather was Charles Miller "

so .....

George H 1914 - Grandfather
George H 1881 - Gt Grandfather
Charles - Gt Gt Grandfather

Sounds right to me.

Kevin

Kevin Report 12 Jun 2012 23:44

Patchem, this is my family.
Mike, I can't find the father as Charles.
Only recent family from Wales.

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Jun 2012 23:45

Look for a 9 / 10yr old George in 1891 with father Charles and it should tell you where he was born

My money's on the Bristol birth.

What was Charles occupation on the marriage cert you have ?

patchem

patchem Report 12 Jun 2012 23:49

This is a Georg Henry from Bristol...
1911 Wales Census
George Henry Miller Age in 1911: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male Birth Place: Bristol, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Ebbw Vale County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales
Street Address: 18 Railway View Cwm Monmouth
Marital Status: Married Occupation: Blacksmith Registration district: Bedwellty
Registration District Number: 585 Sub-registration district: Aberystruth ED, institution, or vessel: 06 Household schedule number: 50 Piece: 31819
George Henry Miller 30
Kate Louise Miller 26
Kitty Rosina Miller 3
Amy Florence Miller 3/12
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 31819; Schedule Number: 50.

Kevin

Kevin Report 12 Jun 2012 23:54

On George Henry Miller & Mary Margaret Morris' wedding on 12th July 1913 it shows George's father as Charles Miller who was a coal miner & Mary's father as David Morris a labourer.

Mike *

Mike * Report 12 Jun 2012 23:54

The marriage for the Bristol George

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Marriages Dec 1906

BENISTON Kate Louise - Bristol 6a 402
BRENT Margaret Clarke Bristol 6a 402
MILLER George Henry - Bristol 6a 402
Riches James Frederick Bristol 6a 402


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Wonder if this one is your George then ?

Births Sep 1881
MILLER George Henry - Maidstone 2a 692

Kevin

Kevin Report 13 Jun 2012 00:05

I will have to check, to confirm information.

Mike *

Mike * Report 13 Jun 2012 00:07

George born 1881 , married 1913 - aged 32

Was it his first marriage ?

Kevin

Kevin Report 13 Jun 2012 00:21

Mike, it states on the marriage in 1913 that George was bachelor & Mary was spinster.

Mike *

Mike * Report 13 Jun 2012 00:37

Thanks Kevin

Always good to have the poster provide feedback to questions.

I think we can rule out the George from Bristol then as it seems he married Kate in 1906 and your George was a batchelor in 1913

Who were the witnesses on the marriage cert. please ?

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 13 Jun 2012 08:13

What was the profession of George Henry Miller (your gt.grandfather) on his marriage certificate?