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1911 Wales Census
Samuel Robert Miller
Age in 1911: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Boarder Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bristol, England
Civil parish: Aberdare County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales
Street Address: 9 Baptist Place Hirwain
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner Hewer
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Registration District Number: 590 Sub-registration district: Aberdare
ED, institution, or vessel: 07 Household schedule number: 211 Piece: 32486

William Jones 36
Maggie Jones 37
William I Jones 8
L B Jones 4
E M Jones 2
Lizzie Davies Nk
Mary Jane Hughes 28
Ellen Elizabeth Hughes 8
Edward John Hughes 2
xxxx Samuel Robert Miller 39

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 32486; Schedule Number: 211


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Marriages Dec 1907
ALWAY James Charles B G Bristol 6a 316
JEFFERIES Emily Louisa Bristol 6a 316
LUCAS Hannah Amelia Bristol 6a 316
MILLER Samuel Robert Bristol 6a 316


Added:
Samuel R in 1881 census appears to have Father John, so wrong one.

I was always told George Henry Miller was born 4th July 1881 and his father was Charles Miller. I was told that there were three sons George Henry, Arthur and Samuel Robert, they also had two daughers Florence and Emily. The three sons came to Glynneath for work. Although I am having difficulty to confirm this.
I have a copy of George Henry Miller's marriage to Mary margaret Morris on 12th July 1913. It states that he was 32 years old. So this seems to add up to the right age, and his father is stated as Charles Miller a coal miner.
Its so confusing.

I'm so confused.
I will have to sit down and work out my Miller side of my family.

Going back to the beginning a minute ...


" George Henry Miller born 03/08/1914, his parents were George Henry Miller born 04/07/1881 ........ "

Where did you get DOB as 4th July 1881 if you don't have his birth certificate ?

What was the profession of George Henry Miller (your gt.grandfather) on his marriage certificate?

Thanks Kevin

Always good to have the poster provide feedback to questions.

I think we can rule out the George from Bristol then as it seems he married Kate in 1906 and your George was a batchelor in 1913

Who were the witnesses on the marriage cert. please ?

Mike, it states on the marriage in 1913 that George was bachelor & Mary was spinster.

George born 1881 , married 1913 - aged 32

Was it his first marriage ?

I will have to check, to confirm information.

The marriage for the Bristol George

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Marriages Dec 1906

BENISTON Kate Louise - Bristol 6a 402
BRENT Margaret Clarke Bristol 6a 402
MILLER George Henry - Bristol 6a 402
Riches James Frederick Bristol 6a 402


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Wonder if this one is your George then ?

Births Sep 1881
MILLER George Henry - Maidstone 2a 692

On George Henry Miller & Mary Margaret Morris' wedding on 12th July 1913 it shows George's father as Charles Miller who was a coal miner & Mary's father as David Morris a labourer.

This is a Georg Henry from Bristol...
1911 Wales Census
George Henry Miller Age in 1911: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male Birth Place: Bristol, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Ebbw Vale County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales
Street Address: 18 Railway View Cwm Monmouth
Marital Status: Married Occupation: Blacksmith Registration district: Bedwellty
Registration District Number: 585 Sub-registration district: Aberystruth ED, institution, or vessel: 06 Household schedule number: 50 Piece: 31819
George Henry Miller 30
Kate Louise Miller 26
Kitty Rosina Miller 3
Amy Florence Miller 3/12
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 31819; Schedule Number: 50.

Look for a 9 / 10yr old George in 1891 with father Charles and it should tell you where he was born

My money's on the Bristol birth.

What was Charles occupation on the marriage cert you have ?

Patchem, this is my family.
Mike, I can't find the father as Charles.
Only recent family from Wales.

" I was always told that my grandfather & great grandfather were called George Henry Miller. Then my great great grandfather was Charles Miller "

so .....

George H 1914 - Grandfather
George H 1881 - Gt Grandfather
Charles - Gt Gt Grandfather

Sounds right to me.

Never believe what you are told. Get the documents.

Just for ref:
1911
MORRIS, David Head Widower M 49 1862 Colliery Labourer Above Ground Narberth Pembroke
MORRIS, Thomas J Son Single M 19 1892 Colliery Haulier Glynneath Glam
MORRIS, Mary Margaret Daughter Single F 21 1890 Glynneath Glam
MORRIS, Dd George Illegitimate M 3 1908 Glynneath Glam

RG number: RG14 Piece: 32648 Reference: RG14PN32648 RG78PN1863 RD592 SD2 ED30 SN19

Registration District: Neath Sub District: Neath Enumeration District: 30
Parish: Neath Higher Address: Penmanchine Cottages Glynneath
County: Glamorganshire

1 child born, 1 living, crossed out next to Mary Margaret

This is the Bedminster one:
Births Mar 1880
Miller George Henry Bedminster 5c 724

The reason that I have been confused is that I was always told that my grandfather & great grandfather were called George Henry Miller. Then my great great grandfather was Charles Miller. Although I can't find the connection, except if I work out 3 x George Henry Miller's & then a Charles Miller.

The George Henry son of George and Rosina couldn't have been born July 1881

1881 census taken 3rd April and he's already 1 year old


Household: 1881

George H. MILLER Head M Male 23 Bristol, Gloucester, England Painter (Out Of Employ)
Rosina MILLER Wife M Female 23 Plymouth, Devon, England Stay Cottoner
Florence E. MILLER Daur Female 3 Bedminster, Somerset, England
George Hy. MILLER Son Male 1 Bedminster, Somerset, England


Dwelling 25 Princess St
Census Place Bedminster, Somerset, England

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Marriages Dec 1877 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Brock Mary Alice Bedminster 5c 1184
DAVY Rosina Bedminster 5c 1184
Goodland Edwin Bedminster 5c 1184
Miller George Henry Bedminster 5c 1184