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gatelady

gatelady Report 4 Jun 2012 15:27

Thank you all for your help, yes i agree place names do tend to vary in spelling, and country's, i.e england and abroad .

i am going to look more closely at my replies, i am sure that i will get the right people now with your help.

Thank you all.
Pam.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2012 21:04

You're very welcome Pam - I used to fall into those Ancestry traps myself and learned the hard way never to trust them!

gatelady

gatelady Report 23 May 2012 20:47

OH, brilliant, thank you all so much, yes i do agree has been a mix up with ancestry, i can now sort this out me thinks, so gratefull to you all for your patience and information.

a big thank you to all

Pam :-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2012 19:30

And just to clarify the correct wife in 1861:

SHEWELL, William Head Married M 50 1811 Agricultural Labourer Winkfield, Berkshire
SHEWELL, Ann Wife Married F 49 1812 Winkfield, Berkshire
SHEWELL, Maria Daughter Unmarried F 20 1841 Servant Winkfield, Berkshire
SHEWELL, George Son M 17 1844 Groom Winkfield, Berkshire
SHEWELL, Henry Son M 15 1846 Agricultural Labourer Winkfield, Berkshire
SHEWELL, Elizabeth Daughter F 13 1848 Scholar Winkfield, Berkshire
SHEWELL, Charlotte Daughter F 2 1859 Winkfield, Berkshire

Piece: 756 Folio: 47 Page: 9
Registration District: Easthampstead
Civil Parish: Winkfield Berks

Address: Wood Side, Winkfield Berks County: Berkshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2012 19:07

The correct Robert and Elizabeth in 1881:

PETTITT, Robt Head Married M 37 1844 Coachman Cusden, Suffolk
PETTITT, Elizth Wife Married F 32 1849 Dressmaker Winkfield, Suffolk
PETTITT, Arthur Son Single M 13 1868 Cigarette Machine Maker Egham, Surrey
PETTITT, Albert Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar London, Middlesex
PETTITT, Edith Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Ashford, Kent
PETTITT, Percy Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar

Piece: 104 Folio: 55 Page: 12
Registration District: St George Hanover Square
Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square

Address: 57, Denbigh Yard, St George Hanover Square County: London, Middlesex
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and in 1891:

PETTIT, Robert Head Married M 47 1844 Coachman Cusden, Suffolk
PETTIT, Elizabeth Wife Married F 42 1849 Windsor, Berkshire
PETTIT, Percy Son Single M 14 1877 Errand Boy Bennington, Kent
PETTIT, Frank Son M 7 1884 Pimlico, London
PETTIT, William Son M 6 1885 Pimlico, London

Piece: 74 Folio: 179 Page: 34
Registration District: St George Hanover Square
Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square

Address: 57a, Denbigh Yard, Denbigh Street, St George Hanover Square, London County: London

(I think at some point the enumerator has mixed up Wingfield in Suffolk with Winkfield in Berkshire and that's how the confusion has arisen).
_______________________________________________________________

and on the 1901 it seems Robert and Elizabeth's birthplaces are the wrong way round:

PETTITT, Robert Head Married M 58 1843 Coachman Winkfield, Berkshire
PETTITT, Elizabeth Wife Married F 53 1848 Suffolk
PETTITT, Percy Son Single M 25 1876 Porter Ashford, Kent
PETTITT, Frank Son Single M 18 1883 Packer Pimlico, London
PETTITT, William Son Single M 16 1885 Engineer Pimlico, London
ASHBURNHAM, Charles Boarder Single M 36 1865 Cabman Holloway, London

Piece: 88 Folio: 100 Page: 66
Registration District: St George Hanover Square
Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square

Address: 16, Clarendon Street, St George Hanover Square County: London

jax

jax Report 23 May 2012 19:01

They do make me smile these hints :-D

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2012 19:00

I also think the death place of Jamaica has been mistakenly accepted instead of St George's Hanover Square!

I'm sure we can help Pam unravel this if she can just confirm who she is working back (or forwards from).

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2012 18:55

There are quite a few trees on Ancestry and they all seem to have got their Robert and Elizabethes mixed up (that's what they get for copying and accepting Ancestry's daft hints!!)

Joseph Pettit apparently died in Suffolk General Hospital in 1892. Someone has perhaps tried to put in "Hospital" for the death location and Ancestry has offered the Hospital region in Chile as a location and the tree owner has blithely accepted it.

The motto is - don't accept hints and only take from other people's research if it's authenticated by documentation. Do your own research!

jax

jax Report 23 May 2012 18:52

There are a few trees on ancestry is one of them yours? Father Joseph died in Bury st Edmunds not Chile

Gee

Gee Report 23 May 2012 18:47

Nice one MC :-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2012 18:41

I think the two marriages show that they are two different Roberts. In order to confirm which is the right wife and children Pam needs to clarify which is the correct Robert.

Who are you working back from?

gatelady

gatelady Report 23 May 2012 18:40

Thank you all, very much appreciated
Pam

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 23 May 2012 18:39

Ties up with occ. of groom:

1881 England Census
Name: Robt. Pettitt
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizth. Pettitt
Gender: Male
Where born: Cusden, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: St George Hannover Square
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 57A Denbigh Yard

Occupation: Coachman

Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Belgrave

Robt. Pettitt 37
Elizth. Pettitt 32
Arthur Pettitt 13
Albert Pettitt 12
Edith Pettitt 8
Percy Pettitt 4

jax

jax Report 23 May 2012 18:38

Where did you get St Georges hanover Jamaca from?

Deaths Jun 1904 (>99%)
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PETTITT Robert 60 St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 250

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2012 18:38

This is the 1865 Norfolk marriage (name mis-transcribed), note the father on this is Samuel:

"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 ," Robert Peltit, 1865

groom's name: Robert Peltit
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Elizabeth Mary Dye
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 02 Aug 1865
marriage place: Thelveton, Norfolk, England
groom's father's name: Samuel Peltit
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: John Dye
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: I07505-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1951635
reference number: Items 27-28 p 14

Source Citation
"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NN2P-8V4 : accessed 23 May 2012), Robert Peltit, 1865.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2012 18:36

Pam, there's the possibility that they are two different Roberts - what was the occupation of Robert on the marriage to Elizabeth Mary Dye?

On the 1866 marriage to Elizabeth Shurvell he was a groom residing 33 Princes Street. Most importantly, he was stated as being a bachelor. His father's name is Joseph.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 23 May 2012 18:35

Just for our info.

1871 England Census

Name: Robert Pettitt
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Ousden, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Ousden
Town: Ousden
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Newmarket
Sub-registration district: Gazeley

Harriet Jolly 62
Thomas Jolly 21
James Jolly 20
Sarah Owen 61
Stephen Owen 21
William Argent 16
Mary A Pettitt 15
Robert Pettitt 27
Elizabeth Pettitt 24
Arthur Pettitt 3
Victor Pettitt 2

gatelady

gatelady Report 23 May 2012 18:33

I am looking for Robert's correct spouse/s and children, please, sorry i should have been more specific
Pam

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2012 18:31

The marriage to Elizabeth Mary Dye was NOT in Kensington!

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1865
Dye Elizabeth Mary Depwade 4b 413
Pettit Robert Depwade 4b 413

The district Depwade spans the boundaries of the counties of Norfolk and Suffolk

Gee

Gee Report 23 May 2012 18:29

Just for ref


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Robert Pettitt
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Shurvell
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 May 1866
Parish: Chelsea St Luke
Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
Father Name: Joseph Pettitt
Spouse Father Name: William Shurvell
Register Type: Parish Register