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mary ellen phillips /zacharia ashton STUMPED

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Carol

Carol Report 14 May 2012 21:25

the above married in the 1st quarter 1879 9b 274. same number on both entries. I have mary ellen phillips birth but can't find zachariah. on the marriage lines zachariah has chapel after his name would that be a middle name???
cannot find his birth anywhere so as i say stumped

Mike *

Mike * Report 14 May 2012 21:45

You need to get the marriage cert and find out how old he was on his marriage ?

Ivy

Ivy Report 14 May 2012 21:48

Hi, just posting the FreeBMD entry for the marriage:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1879
ASHTON Zachariah Chapel Bradford Y. 9b 274
ASHTON Zechariah Chapel Bradford, Y. 9b 274
BOWERS John Hindle Bradford, Y. 9b 274
PHILLIPS Mary Ellen Bradford 9b 274
Swallow Lucy Hannah Bradford 9b 274

Ivy

Ivy Report 14 May 2012 21:50

A possible birth registration:

Zachariah Ashton Oct-Nov-Dec 1849 Wakefield Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 14 May 2012 21:52

Is Zachariah still alive? 1979 is not that long ago. If you believe him to be deceased you could try and get a hopefully fairly accurate date of birth for him. If he is still alive, you might try posting on Living Relatives - assuming that he is a relative.

There are four Zacharia Ashton in Birth Records on GR, none of which could be yours.

And having looked at various entries I got to marriages and discovered your Zachariah married in 1879.

Easily done but now you need to edit your post for the correct year. :-D

And yes it does appear that Chapel is a middle name.

For ref
Marriage Record
Name Zachariah Chapel Ashton
Year of Marriage 1879
Quarter of Marriage Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District Bradford
Registration County Yorkshire
Spouse's Surname
Only available for records after 1912
Volume Number 9B
Volume Page 274

Mike *

Mike * Report 14 May 2012 21:52

Dooh !

It helps if you give the right year.

1879 not 1979 !!



No Chapel on his birth on freebmd. Maybe it was added as his baptism

Births Dec 1849
ASHTON Zachariah - Wakefield 22 673

Ivy

Ivy Report 14 May 2012 21:53

There are not many references to Z*c*r*a* Ashton. IF it is the same chap, then this baptism entry suggests the 1879 marriage was not his first marriage:

Mary Priscilla Ashton
baptd 5 May 1875 at Bradford, Christchurch
on 20 Jun 1875
parents Zechariah Ashton, Hannah Ashton

Andrew

Andrew Report 14 May 2012 21:55

Connection?

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
about Fred Chappel Ashton
Name: Fred Chappel Ashton
Birth Year: abt 1871
Age: 22
Marriage or Bann Date: 21 Oct 1893
Parish: Holbeck, St Barnabas
Father's Name: Zachariah Ashton
Spouse's Name: Ada Walker
Spouse's Father's Name: William Lund Walker


1871 census

1871 England Census
about Fred C Ashton
Name: Fred C Ashton
Age: 1 Month
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Ann Senior
Gender: Male
Where born: Upperthong, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Upperthong
Ecclesiastical parish: Upperthong St John
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Huddersfield
Sub-registration district: Holmfirth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 143
Piece: 4347
Folio: 18
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Senior 40
Fred C Ashton 1 Month




Andy

Mike *

Mike * Report 14 May 2012 21:58

2 Hannah's to choose from !

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Marriages Jun 1870

ASHTON Zechariah Huddersfield 9a 483
BROADBENT Hannah Huddersfield 9a 483
CROSSLAND John Thompson Huddersfield 9a 483
TURNER Hannah Elizabeth Huddersfield 9a 483

Mike *

Mike * Report 14 May 2012 22:00


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Zachariah ASHTON --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth: 1850 Wakefield, York, Yorkshire, England

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Parents:
Father: John ASHTON
Mother: Elizabeth

Ivy

Ivy Report 14 May 2012 22:01

I think this may be Zac and Mary in 1881:

Name: Zachanah Ashton
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Wakefield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Bradford
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 56 James Street
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Stoker

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bradford, West End
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4454
Folio: 67
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Robinson Consett 66
Ann Consett 61
Elizth. Cox 40
Fred Consett Harrison 15
William Shutt 31
Robert Bell 29
Robert Watson 40
George Hartley 58
Zachanah Ashton 31 <<<
Mary Ashton 23 <<<<<

Mike *

Mike * Report 14 May 2012 22:09

Deaths Dec 1926
Ashton Zachariah - 79 - Chesterfield 7b 798

Mike *

Mike * Report 14 May 2012 22:12

1911 ( can't work out what institution he's in but he's a widower )

Zachariah Ashton
Age in 1911 : 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Chesterfield
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Late Gas Fitter
Registration district: Chesterfield


EDIT :
Found it ...............

Union Workhouse Chesterfield

Andrew

Andrew Report 14 May 2012 22:14

Another 1881 with Priscilla and Fred?

1881 England Census
about Fred Ashton
Name: Fred Ashton
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Prisilla Ashton
Gender: Male
Where born: Holmfirth, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Bowling
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 11 Saville Street
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bowling
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4436
Folio: 140
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Ashton 68
Prisilla Ashton 29
Fred Ashton 10
Frank Ashton 8
Henry Scott 65


Andy

Ivy

Ivy Report 14 May 2012 22:41

Amazing, I've just looked more closely at the birthplaces of his siblings on the 1851 census:

All living at Bowling, Yorkshire

Parents
John Ashton married to Elizabeth born abt 1812 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England Head
Elizabeth Ashton Wife of John born abt 1814 Alberton, Devon, England

Siblings
Joseph Ashton b abt 1837 Hesleton, Cornwall, England
Mary Ann Ashton b abt 1839 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
Stephen Ashton b abt 1842 Denbigh, Yorkshire, England
John W Ashton b abt 1845 Plymouth, Devon, England
Josiah Ashton b abt 1848 Plymouth, Devon, England
Sackariah Ashton b abt 1850 Wakefield, Yorkshire, England

Carol

Carol Report 14 May 2012 22:51

wow, thats amazing, I would really like to no how you all do it because i keep running out of credits, /where do you find parish records and mike how did you find an institution ive spent three days and £10.00 looking for zachariah :-D :-D :-D thankyou everybody , got a printer this week so can print it all you must be all very experienced :-D :-D

Carol

Carol Report 14 May 2012 22:52

wow, thats amazing, I would really like to no how you all do it because i keep running out of credits, /where do you find parish records and mike how did you find an institution ive spent three days and £10.00 looking for zachariah :-D :-D :-D thankyou everybody , got a printer this week so can print it all you must be all very experienced :-D :-D

Mike *

Mike * Report 14 May 2012 23:12

1911 census was from Ancestry - usually a pay site but has been free to search this weekend.

Also used freebmd and familysearch.org which are also free.

Must say, you threw us a curve ball at first with a 1979 wedding !!
I see you've amended it now..... to 1989 ... it gets better !!!

Carol

Carol Report 14 May 2012 23:26

cherrs mike , I will check those to sites out. Its so interesting but can become expensive, so nice to no of a couple of free sites many thanks :-)

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 15 May 2012 11:41

Morning Carol.

Go in and change the date again (in your first post) will you ;-)

We all help here. Before I joined GR I had been able to do quite a lot using the free sites and the help of a friend who had access to various sites. So if you can afford it, I would definitely suggest that you get a sub to one of the sites which will allow you to find a lot of what you are looking for. The best free sites I found and which we all still use are FreeBMD and FamilySearch.

Until then, please ask if you need a look-up on a census etc. Maybe with the credits we help you to save, you can buy a sub and then you will move on to helping others aswell.

xJ