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23 Mar 2012 22:39 |
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I need help and advise, searching for the marriage of the above, but have a problem, 3 Alice Maud TURVILLE'S in Aston - Warwickshire. Year of birth 1883, 1882 and 1880
Married a Alfred G BROOKS or William A LLEWELLIN in July/Sept Qrt. 1910
William Gerald JEFFERY or Ernest E TOMKINS in Oct/Dec Qrt 1906
Percy Ernest HUMPHRIES or William SUMMER in Oct/Dec Qrt 1906
How can i find which is the right marriage, l have found her parents a David and Emily TURVILLE in the census records, then came to a halt. Is there a way l can find the right marriage without sending for marriage certs.
Any help or advise would be appreciated.
Thanking all who read this.
Regards,
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23 Mar 2012 22:44 |
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Cross-refer with census records immediately following the marriages
Find the one whose age and birthplace are in line with what you know
You should know in which year she was born from finding her with her parents on the censuses How did you work back to this woman?
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23 Mar 2012 22:48 |
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What did you say her father's name was?
Name: Alice M Turville Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Daniel Turville Mother's Name: Emily Turville Gender: Female Where born: Aston, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul Town: Aston County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address:
Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Aston Manor ED, institution, or vessel: 48 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2435 Folio: 55 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Daniel Turville 49 Emily Turville 43 William D Turville 23 Ada Turville 21 Clara Turville 19 Albert E Turville 16 Ernest A Turville 14 Fanny E Turville 12 Alice M Turville 10 Frederick C Turville 8 Elsie Turville 5 Florie Turville 3 This is her birth
Name: Alice Maud Turville Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1880 Registration district: Aston Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 374
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23 Mar 2012 22:53 |
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Alice Maud Turville England and Wales Census, 1911 birth: Aston,? Warwickshire census: 1911 Aston Manor,? Aston Manor,? Warwickshire,? England name: Alice Maud Turville event: Census event date: 1911 gender: Female age: 0 birthplace: Aston, Warwickshire record type: Household registration district: Aston sub-district: Aston Manor parish: Aston Manor county: Warwickshire
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23 Mar 2012 23:04 |
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Hi Reggie, the info. on your last message is the correct parents of Alice Maud, but the problem l have is finding who she married. I have her born 1881/2. I had some of the information from notes my father-in-law made when he started the family tree. He never got to the marriages of Daniel and Emily's children.I thank you for your time and effort you have given on this research.
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23 Mar 2012 23:09 |
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1901 England Census about Alice Maud Turrtille Name: Alice Maud Turrtille [Alice Maud Turville] Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Daniel Turrtille Mother's Name: Emily Turrtille Gender: Female Where born: Aston Manor, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Aston Manor Ecclesiastical parish: Aston by Birmingham St Peter and St Paul County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Aston Manor ED, institution, or vessel: 36 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 108 Piece: 2886 Folio: 13 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Daniel Turrtille 57 Emily Turrtille 53 William Dane Turrtille 33 Fanny Elizth Turrtille 22 Alice Maud Turrtille 20 Frederick Chas Turrtille 18 Elsie Turrtille 15 Florrie Turrtille 13
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Kucinta
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23 Mar 2012 23:18 |
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census 1911????? EDIT: Possibly not as this one too young?
Married under 1 year. No children.
LLEWELLIN, William Arnold Head Married M 30 1881 Rubber Worker Manager Aston Manor Warwicks LLEWELLIN, Alice Maude Wife Married F 29 1882 Aston Manor Warwicks
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 17245 Reference: RG14PN17245 RG78PN1059 RD371 SD1 ED40 SN406 Registration District: West Bromwich Sub District: Handsworth Enumeration District: 40 Parish: Handsworth Address: 90 Putney Road Handsworth Staffordshire County: Staffordshire
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GlitterBaby
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23 Mar 2012 23:25 |
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Thats the best 1911 that I have found so far as well
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GlitterBaby
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23 Mar 2012 23:29 |
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1911 not a lot of help this one
TOMKINS, E Head Married M 32 1879 Printers Cutter Aston VIEW TOMKINS, A Wife Married 4 years F 30 1881 Blacker Aston VIEW TOMKINS, L Son M 3 1908 Aston VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 18292 Reference: RG14PN18292 RG78PN1102 RD385 SD4 ED23 SN57 Registration District: Aston Sub District: Aston Manor Enumeration District: 23 Parish: Aston Manor Address: 63 Clifton Road Aston Manor
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Kucinta
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23 Mar 2012 23:33 |
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GB - Tomkins one fits quite well with length of marriage and Alice's age - better than Llewellin did.
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GlitterBaby
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23 Mar 2012 23:36 |
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1911 shame as no grand children with them to help with this
TURVILLE, Daniel Head Married M 67 1844 Carpenter Leicestershire Melton Mowbry VIEW TURVILLE, Emily Wife Married 44 years F 63 1848 Oxfordshire Murcott VIEW TURVILLE, William Daniel Son Single M 43 1868 General Commission Agent Warwickshire Aston VIEW TURVILLE, Fredrick Charles Son Single M 28 1883 Printer Machine Minder Warwickshire Aston VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 18295 Reference: RG14PN18295 RG78PN1102 RD385 SD4 ED26 SN338 Registration District: Aston Sub District: Aston Manor Enumeration District: 26 Parish: Aston Manor Address: 72 Upper Thomas St Aston Manor
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GlitterBaby
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23 Mar 2012 23:37 |
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Kucinta
It is all guess work
But that is two possibles at the moment
Maureen
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Kucinta
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23 Mar 2012 23:45 |
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We can now rule this one out - but shame the op didn't give us the right name:
Census 1911:
SUMNER, William Head Married M 45 1866 Ash Collector Billesley Near Warwick SUMNER, Alice Maud Wife Married 4 years F 27 1884 Henaise St Birmingham SUMNER, Clara Maud F 1 (16 MONTHS) 1910 Wolseley St Birmingham
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 18175 Reference: RG14PN18175 RG78PN1099 RD385 SD1 ED28 SN177 Registration District: Aston Sub District: Deritend Enumeration District: 28 Parish: Aston Address: 16 Sycamore Terrace Wolseley ST County: Warwickshire
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GlitterBaby
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23 Mar 2012 23:50 |
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Did he marry again
HUMPHRIES, Percy Ernest Head Married M 27 1884 Railway Porter Birmingham Warwickshire VIEW HUMPHRIES, Elsie Wife Married F 20 1891 Bromsgrove Worstershire VIEW HUMPHRIES, James Ernest Son M 3 1908 Warwickshire Birmingham VIEW GRIMMITT, Florence Stepdaughter F 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 Warwickshire Birmingham VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 18238 Reference: RG14PN18238 RG78PN1101 RD385 SD3 ED8 SN70 Registration District: Aston Sub District: Duddeston Enumeration District: 8 Parish: Aston Address: 2 Back 26 Newdegate Street
Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aldridge Lucy Aston 6d 681 GRIMMITT Elsie Aston 6d 681 Humphries Percy E Aston 6d 681 Moss Joe Aston 6d 681
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Kucinta
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23 Mar 2012 23:53 |
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Death of first wife Annie?:
Deaths Dec 1909 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HUMPHRIES Annie 22 Aston 6d 144
Marriages Dec 1906 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Clarke Annie Aston 6d 504 >>Humphries Percy Ernest Aston 6d 504 SUMNER William Aston 6d 504 TURVILLE Alice Maud Aston 6d 504
The Alice who married William Sumner seems to be ruled out by the birthplace and birth year in census 1911 I posted previously?
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GlitterBaby
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23 Mar 2012 23:54 |
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So could be missing a match for the William Sumner marriage
?? Deaths Dec 1909 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HUMPHRIES Annie 22 Aston 6d 144
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GlitterBaby
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23 Mar 2012 23:56 |
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Oops you have found the missing one for 1911
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Kucinta
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23 Mar 2012 23:58 |
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We're crossing posts, Maureen. :-D
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Kucinta
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24 Mar 2012 00:04 |
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??????
Death: Name: Alice M Tomkins Birth Date: abt 1880 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1957 Age at Death: 77 Registration district: Birmingham Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 9c Page: 131
Death: Name: Alice M Llewellin Birth Date: abt 1882 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1964 Age at Death: 82 Registration district: Sutton Coldfield Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 9c Page: 890
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GlitterBaby
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24 Mar 2012 00:05 |
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Yes but good team work
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