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Alice Maud TURVILLE

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peardrops

peardrops Report 23 Mar 2012 22:39

I need help and advise, searching for the marriage of the above, but have a problem, 3 Alice Maud TURVILLE'S in Aston - Warwickshire. Year of birth 1883, 1882 and 1880

Married a Alfred G BROOKS or William A LLEWELLIN in
July/Sept Qrt. 1910

William Gerald JEFFERY or Ernest E TOMKINS in
Oct/Dec Qrt 1906

Percy Ernest HUMPHRIES or William SUMMER in
Oct/Dec Qrt 1906

How can i find which is the right marriage, l have found her parents a David and Emily TURVILLE in the census records, then came to a halt. Is there a way l can find the right marriage without sending for marriage certs.

Any help or advise would be appreciated.

Thanking all who read this.


Regards,

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Mar 2012 22:44

Cross-refer with census records immediately following the marriages

Find the one whose age and birthplace are in line with what you know

You should know in which year she was born from finding her with her parents on the censuses

How did you work back to this woman?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Mar 2012 22:48

1891

What did you say her father's name was?

Name: Alice M Turville
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Daniel Turville
Mother's Name: Emily Turville
Gender: Female
Where born: Aston, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul
Town: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:


Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2435
Folio: 55
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel Turville 49
Emily Turville 43
William D Turville 23
Ada Turville 21
Clara Turville 19
Albert E Turville 16
Ernest A Turville 14
Fanny E Turville 12
Alice M Turville 10
Frederick C Turville 8
Elsie Turville 5
Florie Turville 3

This is her birth

Name: Alice Maud Turville
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1880
Registration district: Aston
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 374

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Mar 2012 22:53

Alice Maud Turville
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Aston,? Warwickshire
census: 1911 Aston Manor,? Aston Manor,? Warwickshire,? England


name: Alice Maud Turville
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Female
age: 0
birthplace: Aston, Warwickshire
record type: Household
registration district: Aston
sub-district: Aston Manor
parish: Aston Manor
county: Warwickshire

peardrops

peardrops Report 23 Mar 2012 23:04

Hi Reggie, the info. on your last message is the correct parents of Alice Maud, but the problem l have is finding who she married. I have her born 1881/2. I had some of the information from notes my father-in-law made when he started the family tree. He never got to the marriages of Daniel and Emily's children.I thank you for your time and effort you have given on this research.

Michele

Michele Report 23 Mar 2012 23:09

1901 England Census about Alice Maud Turrtille
Name: Alice Maud Turrtille
[Alice Maud Turville]
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Daniel Turrtille
Mother's Name: Emily Turrtille
Gender: Female
Where born: Aston Manor, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Aston Manor
Ecclesiastical parish: Aston by Birmingham St Peter and St Paul
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 108
Piece: 2886
Folio: 13
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Turrtille 57
Emily Turrtille 53
William Dane Turrtille 33
Fanny Elizth Turrtille 22
Alice Maud Turrtille 20
Frederick Chas Turrtille 18
Elsie Turrtille 15
Florrie Turrtille 13

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 23 Mar 2012 23:18

census 1911????? EDIT: Possibly not as this one too young?

Married under 1 year. No children.

LLEWELLIN, William Arnold Head Married M 30 1881 Rubber Worker Manager Aston Manor Warwicks
LLEWELLIN, Alice Maude Wife Married F 29 1882 Aston Manor Warwicks

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17245 Reference:
RG14PN17245 RG78PN1059 RD371 SD1 ED40 SN406

Registration District:
West Bromwich Sub District:
Handsworth Enumeration District:
40 Parish:
Handsworth

Address:
90 Putney Road Handsworth Staffordshire County:
Staffordshire


GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 23 Mar 2012 23:25

Thats the best 1911 that I have found so far as well

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 23 Mar 2012 23:29

1911 not a lot of help this one

TOMKINS, E Head Married M 32 1879 Printers Cutter Aston VIEW
TOMKINS, A Wife Married
4 years F 30 1881 Blacker Aston VIEW
TOMKINS, L Son M 3 1908 Aston VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18292 Reference:
RG14PN18292 RG78PN1102 RD385 SD4 ED23 SN57

Registration District:
Aston Sub District:
Aston Manor Enumeration District:
23 Parish:
Aston Manor

Address:
63 Clifton Road Aston Manor

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 23 Mar 2012 23:33

GB - Tomkins one fits quite well with length of marriage and Alice's age - better than Llewellin did.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 23 Mar 2012 23:36

1911 shame as no grand children with them to help with this

TURVILLE, Daniel Head Married M 67 1844 Carpenter Leicestershire Melton Mowbry VIEW
TURVILLE, Emily Wife Married
44 years F 63 1848 Oxfordshire Murcott VIEW
TURVILLE, William Daniel Son Single M 43 1868 General Commission Agent Warwickshire Aston VIEW
TURVILLE, Fredrick Charles Son Single M 28 1883 Printer Machine Minder Warwickshire Aston VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18295 Reference:
RG14PN18295 RG78PN1102 RD385 SD4 ED26 SN338

Registration District:
Aston Sub District:
Aston Manor Enumeration District:
26 Parish:
Aston Manor

Address:
72 Upper Thomas St Aston Manor

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 23 Mar 2012 23:37

Kucinta

It is all guess work

But that is two possibles at the moment

Maureen

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 23 Mar 2012 23:45

We can now rule this one out - but shame the op didn't give us the right name:

Census 1911:

SUMNER, William Head Married M 45 1866 Ash Collector Billesley Near Warwick
SUMNER, Alice Maud Wife Married 4 years F 27 1884 Henaise St Birmingham
SUMNER, Clara Maud F 1 (16 MONTHS) 1910 Wolseley St Birmingham

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18175 Reference:
RG14PN18175 RG78PN1099 RD385 SD1 ED28 SN177

Registration District:
Aston Sub District:
Deritend Enumeration District:
28 Parish:
Aston

Address:
16 Sycamore Terrace Wolseley ST County:
Warwickshire

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 23 Mar 2012 23:50

Did he marry again

HUMPHRIES, Percy Ernest Head Married M 27 1884 Railway Porter Birmingham Warwickshire VIEW
HUMPHRIES, Elsie Wife Married F 20 1891 Bromsgrove Worstershire VIEW
HUMPHRIES, James Ernest Son M 3 1908 Warwickshire Birmingham VIEW
GRIMMITT, Florence Stepdaughter F 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 Warwickshire Birmingham VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18238 Reference:
RG14PN18238 RG78PN1101 RD385 SD3 ED8 SN70

Registration District:
Aston Sub District:
Duddeston Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Aston

Address:
2 Back 26 Newdegate Street



Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)
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Aldridge Lucy Aston 6d 681
GRIMMITT Elsie Aston 6d 681
Humphries Percy E Aston 6d 681
Moss Joe Aston 6d 681

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 23 Mar 2012 23:53

Death of first wife Annie?:

Deaths Dec 1909
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HUMPHRIES Annie 22 Aston 6d 144


Marriages Dec 1906
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>>Clarke Annie Aston 6d 504
>>Humphries Percy Ernest Aston 6d 504
SUMNER William Aston 6d 504
TURVILLE Alice Maud Aston 6d 504


The Alice who married William Sumner seems to be ruled out by the birthplace and birth year in census 1911 I posted previously?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 23 Mar 2012 23:54

So could be missing a match for the William Sumner marriage




??
Deaths Dec 1909 (>99%)
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HUMPHRIES Annie 22 Aston 6d 144

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 23 Mar 2012 23:56

Oops you have found the missing one for 1911

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 23 Mar 2012 23:58

We're crossing posts, Maureen. :-D

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 24 Mar 2012 00:04

??????

Death:
Name: Alice M Tomkins
Birth Date: abt 1880
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1957
Age at Death: 77
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 131


Death:
Name: Alice M Llewellin
Birth Date: abt 1882
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1964
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Sutton Coldfield
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 890

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 24 Mar 2012 00:05

Yes but good team work

:-D