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Sorry for delay in replying. I have had problems connecting to the Internet. Many Thanks Vanessa!

JOHN ROBBINS Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth: 15 JAN 1820
Christening: 18 MAY 1823 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN ROBBINS Family
Mother: CATHARINE


RICHARD ROBBINS Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth: 05 APR 1823
Christening: 18 MAY 1823 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN ROBBINS Family
Mother: CATHARINE

Hi Christine

Birth: DEC 1801

Christening: 06 NOV 1808 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England

Death: 14 DEC 1808

Burial:
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Parents:
Father: JOHN ROBBINS Family
Mother: CATHARINE

All of these can be viewed on familysearch by clicking on Go to Previous Site, and doing an advanced search using the parents names - John Robbins and Catherine (no surname) :-D

Just a 'quickie' for Vanessa please.

'James was christened the same day as Harriott in last post, although Harriott was born several years before & died just a month later'.

Would you be kind enough to tell me when Harriott was born please?

PS I'm wondering if the vicar misheard Boatman for Coachman?

EDIT

I have just noticed that John & Richard were both baptised 23/05/1823, so they were probably also born earlier than 1823.

I make that about 14 children? James baptised 1808 is the only James listed amongst them.

My only doubt is how John managed to be a Coachman and a Lighterman/Bargeman at different times. Watermen tended to be born into the job!

Thanks again. :-)

My word you have been busy!

My sincere thanks to all who have contributed to the above.

Will now read it through again and come back to you shortly.

(Another) Chris

I hope it's not the same Mr Gawler, Siggs :-0

Now he really would have lived a 'great and good' life

:-D

Chris

... and 100 years later W. Gawler is a witness on a marriage I'm looking at...

Chris

Oh I wish even a quarter of mine were so detailed.

Mind you I saw a Hampstead Middlesex baptism register where whoever wrote it up gave about two generations back for the mother and father. He gave up doing that after about two pages......That of course was for the 'great and good' families not for my 'rough and ready' lot :-D

Chris

Lol Chris, just looked at images, and was going to say the same as you, brilliant eh?...

Chris :)

Some lovely register entries, like Dade regisers. If only they were all like these!

Name: Mary Robbins
Baptism Date: 4 Jan 1799
Parish: Holy Trinity, Clapham
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Parent(s): John Robbins,
Catherine Robbins
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

>>>Mary 1st daughter of John Robbins Labourer and Catherine his wife late Catherine Lake Spinster.
Born Nov 24th


Name: Charlotte Robbins
Baptism Date: 17 Apr 1803
Parish: Holy Trinity, Clapham
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Parent(s): John Robbins,
Catherine Robbins
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

>>>Charlotte the 4th daughter of John Robbins Coachman and his Catherine his wife late Catherine (left blank) Spinster
Born 28 Dec 1802

A Burial....

Name: John Edward Robbins
Burial Date: 22 Nov 1806
Parish: Holy Trinity, Clapham
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Parent(s): John,
Catharine
Record Type: Burial
Register Type: Parish Re

>>> John Edward the second son of John Robbins Servant and Catherine his wife late C.Lake. Aged 17 months.

Name: Ann Robins
Baptism Date: 5 Mar 1800
Parish: Holy Trinity, Clapham
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Parent(s): John Robins,
Catherine Robins
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

>>Ann 2nd daughter of John Robbins and Catherine his wife. Late C.Lake Spinster
Born 3 Nov 1799

Name: Catherine Robins
Baptism Date: 29 May 1801
Parish: Holy Trinity, Clapham
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Parent(s): John Robins,
Catherine Robins
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

>>> Catherine 3rd daughter of of John Robbins and Catherine his wife. Late C.Lake Spinster
Born 24th Jan

Not so good and maybe not connected to the above?

Name: Harriett Sarah Robbins
Baptism Date: 6 Nov 1808
Parish: St Saviour, Denmark Park
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Parent(s): John Robbins.....Lighterman
Catharine Robbins
Record Type: Christening
Register Type: Parish R

Same day
Name: James Robbins
Baptism Date: 6 Nov 1808
Parish: St Saviour, Denmark Park
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Parent(s): John Robbins,
Catharine Robbins
Record Type: Christening
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: William John Robins
Baptism Date: 2 Dec 1804
Parish: St Mary, Putney
County: Surrey
Borough: Wandsworth
Parent(s): John Robins....Bargeman
Catharine Robins
Record Type: Baptism
Register Type: Parish Register

Born 10 September

Chris

The marriage Vanessa found...

Name: John Robbins.....Batchelor...Signed
Spouse Name: Catherine Lake....Spinster...Made Mark
Record Type: Marriage....By Banns
Event Date: 22 Feb 1798
Parish: Lambeth St Mary
Borough: Lambeth
Register Type: Parish Register

Both of the Parish.
Witnesses: Margaret Tilley
W.Gawler....Appears to be a serial witness

Chris

One of the records gives the mother as Catherine Lake, but I cant find a matching marriage on familysearch! If anyone has access to the correct records they might be able to find an entry??

More here - James was christened the same day as Harriott in last post, although Harriott was born several years before & died just a month later:

RICHARD ROBBINS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 MAY 1823 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England

47. ELEANOR ROBBINS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 14 JUN 1818 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England

48. JANE ROBINS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 16 AUG 1812 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England

49. JAMES ROBBINS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 NOV 1808 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England

50. CHARLOTTE ROBBINS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 APR 1803 Holy Trinity, Clapham, Surrey, England

Sophia & John appear to be quite sometime after the previous set, but not uncommon for mothers to be bearing children for 20 years+:

31. HARRIOTT SARAH ROBBINS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 06 NOV 1808 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England

32. SOPHIA CATHARINE ROBBINS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 21 JAN 1816 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England

33. JOHN ROBBINS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 MAY 1823 Saint Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England

Wonder if these could be siblings?? All have parents John & Catherine Robbins:

97. MARY ROBBINS - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 04 JAN 1799 Holy Trinity, Clapham, Surrey, England

98. CATHERINE ROBINS - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 29 MAY 1801 Holy Trinity, Clapham, Surrey, England

99. KATHARINE ROBBINS - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 25 AUG 1811 Holy Trinity, Clapham, Surrey, England

100. FRANCES ROBBINS - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 22 JUL 1810 Holy Trinity, Clapham, Surrey, England

101. JOHN EDWARD ROBBINS - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 28 JUL 1805 Holy Trinity, Clapham, Surrey, England

102. WILLIAM ROBBINS - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Christening: 03 JUN 1804 Holy Trinity, Clapham, Surrey, England

I keep losing the Internet connection on my steam-powered computer so will try again tomorrow!

Yep. Could be!

He named my 2x grandfather James John Thomas.

EDIT

Just looked at map and see that Southwark is only about 2 miles from Clapham, so looking like a strong contender (Thankyou).

So my next question is can anyone find a marriage for John Robbins & Catharine please? ;-)

Name: James Robbins
Baptism Date: 6 Nov 1808
Parish: St Saviour, Denmark Park
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Parent(s): John Robbins,
Catharine Robbins
Record Type: Christening
Register Type: Parish Register

Maybe ?

1851 & 1861 Census. He died later in 1861.
1841 says born Middlesex, but that was where he was living at the time.