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Posy

Posy Report 2 Mar 2012 08:51

Looking to find out the nmaes of the mother and father of Frank Edward Piper born Feb 1921 Sussex, England, there is no one left in the family that knowns these details, only have short birth cert so stuck on this one. There were 2 other children Joyce and Eva. Hope someone can help have tried searching records and trees but no luck?

Andrew

Andrew Report 2 Mar 2012 08:53

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
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Piper Frank E Durrant Eastbourne 2b 117

There is this marriage in the same area, but you really need the birth cert to be certain

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1917 (>99%)
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Durrant Ivy E Piper Eastbourne 2b 197
Piper Frank Durrant Eastbourne 2b 197


Did Frank jnr have any siblings?


Andy

Posy

Posy Report 2 Mar 2012 08:59

Hi they lived In Eastbourne so this is probably the right one, thank you that really helps as I can now go to the 1911 census - :)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 2 Mar 2012 09:36

Not sure if you have checked in 'Search Trees' at top of page, could be another Member, with the same...

Chris :)

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Mar 2012 10:07

Frank E Piper MAr Qtr 1921 Eastbourne 2B 117 mmn Durrant
Eva I Piper Sep Qtr 1922 Eastbourne 2B 120 mmn Durrant
Joyce E Piper Jun Qtr Eastbourne 1929 2B 111 mmn Durrant

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Mar 2012 10:19

??? 1911

1911 census transcription details for: Crumble Cott Channel View Road

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN4815 RG78PN208 RD71 SD2 ED3 SN41

Reg. District: Eastbourne Sub District: Eastbourne
Parish: Eastbourne Enum. District: 3
Address: Crumble Cott Channel View Road
County: Sussex

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
DURRANT, James Head Married M 40 1871 Laborer Sussex Pevensey
DURRANT, Fanny Wife Married16 years F 43 1868 Eastbourne
DURRANT, Ivy Daughter F 14 1897 Eastbourne
DURRANT, Marjorie Daughter F 2 1909 Eastbourne

4 children born alive, 2 still living

Catherine

Catherine Report 2 Mar 2012 10:20

possible births:-

Births Sep 1896 (>99%)
Durrant Ivy Ellen Eastbourne 2b 72

............this one has a middle name, but correct area?

Births Mar 1898 (>99%)
PIPER Frank George Eastbourne 2b 77

EDIT:-
Birth is not the correct one as this one died shortly afterwards:-

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Frank George Piper

Name:Frank George Piper
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1898
Date of registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1898
Age at Death:0
Registration district:Eastbourne
Inferred County:Sussex
Volume:2b
Page:55

You need to buy the marriage cert. (if this is the correct marriage) to find out the ages of the couple. You can then work out their date of births. It will also give you their father's names which will help find, or confirm, any possible census records found.


Possible?

1901 England Census about Loy Durrant

Name:Loy Durrant [Ivy Durrant]
Age:4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation:Daughter

Father's Name:James Durrant
Mother's name:Fanny Durrant

Gender:Female
Where born:Eastbourne, Sussex, England
Civil parish:Eastbourne
Ecclesiastical parish:Eastbourne Christchurch
County/Island:Sussex
Country:England
Street Address:

Registration district:Eastbourne
Sub-registration district:Eastbourne
ED, institution, or vessel:33
Household schedule number:212
Piece:884
Folio:98
Page Number:31

Household Members:
Name Age
James Durrant 30
Fanny Durrant 33
Loy Durrant 4


marriage cert. will confirm father's name. It will also give you his occupation and the address she was living at the time of marriage, which may help.


What you should start with though is the birth cert. for Frank Edward Piper, which will give you his parents names so you can make sure you are following the correct families.

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Mar 2012 10:24

Same couple 1901

1901 census transcription details for: 4, Vine Square, Eastbourne

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 884 Folio: 98 Page: 31

Reg. District: Eastbourne Sub District: Eastbourne
Parish: Eastbourne Enum. District: 33
Ecclesiastical District: Eastbourne Christ Church City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 4, Vine Square, Eastbourne
County: Sussex

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
DURRANT, James Head Married M 30 1871 Sewerman (Labourer) Pevensey Sussex
DURRANT, Fanny Wife Married F 33 1868 Eastbourne Sussex
DURRANT, Ivy Daughter Single F 4 1897 Eastbourne Sussex

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Mar 2012 10:30

?? Civil Registration event: Birth

Name: DURRANT, James Simeon
Registration district: Eastbourne (covers Pevensey)
County: Sussex
Year of registration: 1870
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 2B
Page no: 55


greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Mar 2012 10:34

?? but in Hackney
Civil Registration event: Marriage
Print Close
Name: DURRANT, James Simeon
Registration district: Hackney
County: London
Year of registration: 1895
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 859

MarriageFinder: James Simeon Durrant married one of the following people:

PARKS, Fanny Jane
WOOD, Phoebe Jane

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Mar 2012 10:38

??
Name: PARKS, Fanny Jane
Registration district: Eastbourne
County: Sussex
Year of registration: 1868
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 2B
Page no: 67

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 2 Mar 2012 12:08

????
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Frank Piper
Name: Frank Piper
Birth Date: abt 1886
Date of registration: Apr-May-Jun 1955
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Eastbourne
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 209
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1901 census transcription details for: 401, Seaside, Eastbourne
RG number: RG13 Piece: 884 Folio: 62 Page: 8

Reg. District: Eastbourne Sub District: Eastbourne

PIPER, William Head Married M 42 1859 Bricklayer
Ripe
Sussex
PIPER, Kate Wife Married F 41 1860
Ripe
Sussex
PIPER, William Son Single M 18 1883 Bricklayer's Labourer
Ripe
Sussex
>>>>PIPER, Frank Son M 14 1887 Gardener (Domestic)
Ripe
Sussex
PIPER, Horace Son M 12 1889
Ripe
Sussex
PIPER, Edith Daughter F 11 1890
Ripe
Sussex
PIPER, Ellen Daughter F 6 1895
Ripe
Sussex


Maureen

Posy

Posy Report 2 Mar 2012 12:23

Thank you to everyone for the replies they have been most helpful :)

Posy

Posy Report 3 Mar 2012 00:34

Any help for Kate Piper is her married name (born 1860) she married William Piper 1859 trying to find her maiden name please?

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 3 Mar 2012 01:22

Name: PIPER, William
Registration district: [?] Lewes
County: Sussex
Year of registration: 1880
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name Not available before 1912
Volume no: [?] 2B
Page no: [?] 241

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Name: EARL, Kate
Registration district: Lewes
County: Sussex
Year of registration: 1880
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 2B
Page no: 241

You would need to get the birth certificate of the child you are most interested in, to confirm the mother's maiden name as Earl.

You could have found this yourself on Freebmd - have you tried it? I put in William Piper, and spouse first name Kate, and year 1850-1860. It was the only marriage that came up, but that doesn't prove it is right.

Posy

Posy Report 9 Mar 2012 11:24

Hi looking for help with Sarah Piper born 1847 to James Piper and Gatty Carpenter, Sarah had a brother William, she was born in Ripe Sussex but the Piper family also have connections to Eastbourne. Looking to see if she married and had a family??? Any help much appreciated - thak you -

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Mar 2012 11:35

Births Mar 1846 (>99%)
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Piper Sarah Ann Lewes 7 448


1851 (Reference)

PIPER, James Head Married M 35 1816 Mason Journeyman
Ripe
Sussex
PIPER, Gatty Wife Married F 36 1815
Chalvington
Sussex
PIPER, Sarah Ann Daughter F 5 1846 Scholar
Ripe
Sussex
PIPER, Infant Son M 0 (4 DAYS) 1851
Ripe
Sussex
CARPENTER, Rhoda Nurse Married F 22 1829 Nurse
Arlington
Sussex
Piece:
1643 Folio:
657 Page:
11 Registration District:
Lewes
Civil Parish:
Ripe Municipal Borough:


http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

(have you looked on above)


Chris :)

1911 ?

PIPER, Sarah Ann Head Single F 65 1846 Sussex Ripe
PIPER, Ruth Niece Single F 30 1881 Cook Domestic Sussex Ripe
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
4874 Reference:
RG14PN4874 RG78PN211 RD72 SD2 ED3 SN111
Registration District:
Hailsham Sub District:
Hellingly Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Ripe
Address:
Village Ripe Sussex County:
Sussex


1901

PIPER, James Head Widower M 86 1815 Disabled
Ripe
Sussex
PIPER, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 54 1847 House Keeper Domestic
Ripe
Sussex
Piece:
890 Folio:
22 Page:
2 Registration District:
Hailsham
Civil Parish:
Ripe Municipal Borough:
Address:
Church Farm, Ripe

Posy

Posy Report 9 Mar 2012 11:46

Hi yes checked that link but it's not clear whom she married???

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Mar 2012 11:49

(might be her on 1911, now added above)

Chris :)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 9 Mar 2012 11:51

Still single in 1881...

1881 England Census
about Sarah Ann Piper Name: Sarah Ann Piper
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Piper
Mother's Name: Galty Piper
Gender: Female
Where born: Ripe, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Ripe
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address: Ripe Street
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Governess (Private)

Registration district: Lewes
Sub-registration district: West Firle
Household Members: Name Age
James Piper 66
Galty Piper 66
Sarah Ann Piper 34
Eliza Vino 69