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You're very welcome, Pat.

Do come back on here and let us know when you've got the certificate.

If it matches up then this is a possible for Elizabeth:

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1659-1812

Name: Elizabeth Richardson
Birth Date: 27 Apr 1811
Age: 0
Baptism Date: 5 Apr 1812
Parish: Liverpool St Paul
Father's Name: Richard Richardson < Saddler

Address is Orange Street and mother's name is Mary.

Which may be:

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1659-1812

Name: Richard Richardson < Sadler
Marriage Date: 13 Nov 1810
Parish: Liverpool Holy Trinity
Spouse's Name: Mary Ryder - spinster

Witnesses: Thos Bowland and Margaret Darlington

a big big thankyou to you all for your very kind help with all of this information and marie a big thankyou to you this is the info i have been searching for now i will see if i can order the birth cert for john alfred to make sure it is definitly the right person
thankyou all once again
pat

There's this one also but not sure about area.


Burial: 5 May 1837 St Oswald, Winwick, Lancashire, England
Margaret Foster - Wife of Thomas Foster <<<<<<<<
Age: 38
Abode: Golborne
Buried by: Thos. J. Whittington, Curate

marie,
THANKYOU SO MUCH at last i have been searching for a few years for this info thanks so very much it looks very likely that this is the thomas foster i have been searching for
i will send for the cert just to make sure the details are the same
once again thankyou all for your kind help
pat.

A possible for Margaret's burial?

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Burials, 1813-1974

Name: Margaret Foster
Birth Year: abt 1803
Age: 34
Burial Date: 24 Mar 1837
Parish: Liverpool St Mary

Address is Blake Street.

Ties in with children's ages.

Address for this baptism is Dale Street:

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Charles Henry Foster
Birth Date: abt 1840
Baptism Date: 16 Apr 1840
Parish: Liverpool St Peter
Father's Name: Thomas Foster << Hatter
Mother's name: Elizabeth Foster

EDIT :
This may be death cert for Margaret ( Matilda's mother)


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Deaths Jun 1838
FOSTER Margaret - Liverpool 20 241


In which case there wasn't much time between wives .

thankyou margee yes this is the family also

thankyou everyone for your help
pat

A possible:

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921

Name: Thomas Foster - widower of Dale Street < Hatter
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 2 Jun 1839
Parish: Liverpool St Philip
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Richardson (full age) - spinster of Peter Street
Father's Name: James Foster < Hatter
Spouse Father's Name: Richard Richardson < Toiler ??

Witnesses Edward and Jane Slayd ??

Is this him?

1851 England Census
about John Foster Name: John Foster
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thos Foster
Mother's name: Elizth Foster
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Liverpool

Civil parish: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 1j
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 155
Piece: 2192
Folio: 311
Page Number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Foster 44
Elizth Foster 40
Richd Foster 18
James Foster 14
Charles Foster 11
Mary A Foster 8
Danl Foster 5
John Foster 3
Aliner Foster 2
Elizth Foster 6 Mo
Barbara Jones 26
Mary Williams 17
John Bell 18

This is the certificate you need.
It will give you his mother's maiden name then you can search for correct marriage

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Births Mar 1847
Foster John Alfred - Liverpool 20 378


Apply to the General Registry Office online (£9.25 each)

LINK
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Mike - Thomas was a victualler and was still with Elizabeth on the 1861.

EDIT: My apologies, he seems to have changed trades now and then .....

Looks like Thomas was married twice

Baptisms: 7 May 1835 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Matilda Ardern Foster - Child of Thomas Foster & Margaret
Abode: Dale St.
Occupation: Hatter
Baptised by: Richd. Appleton Curate

to lesley, joan and mike thankyou also for the information you have given
if i canot get the birth cert for john alfred does anyone have any ideas as to where i could search for the grandparents of john alfred foster please

thanks
pat.

sorry i keep getting mixed up with another thomas foster of course his wifes name was elizabeth sorry for the confusion my fault.

ach this is the correct family thankyou

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Baptisms: 4 Mar 1847 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Alfred Foster - Child of Thomas Foster & Elizabeth
Abode: Dale St
Occupation: Hatter
Baptised by: A J Tomlin Curate

Patricia are you sure his mother's name is Margaret?

on Ancestory his marriage record states he is a Licensed Vituallar at the time of marriage, father Thomas Foster deceased.

1861 Census
Name: John Alfred Foster
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Foster - Spirit Dealer Vituallar
Mother's name: Elizabeth Foster
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: West Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen the Martyr
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: West Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 27f
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 39
Piece: 2732
Folio: 5
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Foster
53
Elizabeth Foster
52
Matilda Aden Foster
26
Mary Ann Foster
19
Daniel Foster
15
John Alfred Foster
13
Joseph Oliver Foster
11
Margaret Winder
10
Margaret Tighe

Husband

THOMAS FOSTER Pedigree

Birth:
Christening:
Marriage:
Death:
Burial:



Wife

ELIZABETH Pedigree

Birth:
Christening:
Marriage:
Death:
Burial:



Children
1. JOHN ALFRED FOSTER Pedigree
Male


Birth:
Christening: 04 MAR 1847 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Death:

Hi,

A possibility about the right time

Thomas Foster married Margaret Marrow Oct quarter of 1841 in Liverpool ref 20-209.

thankyou ach.
did they have birth certificates back in 1847?