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dizzyjo
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16 Jan 2012 20:13 |
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I have a family that emigrated to US in the 1880s They are Charles F Bryant b 21 Jan 1852 in Camden Town and his wife Mary E. Johnson b approx 1855 in London. They had children Lester Edward F Bryant b 1878 in Lambeth and Stanley Charles Bryant b 1880 Lambeth.
Looking for the deaths of Charles F. Bryant, Mary E. Johnson, Lester Edward F. Bryant and Stanley Charles Bryant. Believe they went to Illinois, USA
I know Stanley Charles Bryant had 3 girls, Dorothy, Eleanor and Marion. Can anyone help me please. Have Ancestry UK, but not USA Many thanks Jo
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MarieCeleste
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16 Jan 2012 20:27 |
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Still alive and in California in 1930:
1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Charles F Bryant Birth Year: abt 1851 Birthplace: England Home in 1930: Yucaipa, San Bernardino, California Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Mary E Bryant Occupation: Farmer on own farm Education: Military Service: Rent/home value: Age at first marriage: 23
Parents' birthplace: England Household Members: Name Age Charles F Bryant 79 Mary E Bryant 75
Year of immigration for both was 1881.
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MarieCeleste
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16 Jan 2012 20:34 |
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The problem with US records is that they have separate records for each state (often separate records for counties within state) - can't see anything for Charles in California ......
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MarieCeleste
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16 Jan 2012 20:36 |
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Here's the 1900 so we can see ages, etc (they were in Illinnois then):
1900 United States Federal Census Name: Charles Bryant [Charles F Bryant] Age: 46 Birth Date: Jan 1854 Birthplace: England Home in 1900: Chicago Ward 12, Cook, Illinois [Chicago, Cook, Illinois] Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1881 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Mary E Bryant Marriage Year: 1876 Years Married: 24 Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Occupation: Dentist
Household Members: Name Age Charles Bryant 46 Mary E Bryant 43 Lester F Bryant 21 D Student Stanley C Bryant 19 Electrician
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dizzyjo
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16 Jan 2012 20:36 |
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Marie Celeste
Many thanks for that info. I wonder when they moved to California, because in 1900 I have them in Cook, Illinois, a Chicago ward.
Thank you for your help and added info Regards Jo
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MarieCeleste
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16 Jan 2012 20:41 |
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Can't see them on 1910, but in California 1920 (perhaps they wanted to retire to the sun!)
1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Charles F Bryant Age: 68 Birth Year: abt 1852 Birthplace: England Home in 1920: Santa Ana Ward 1, Orange, California Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1851 [1881] Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Mary E Bryant Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Home Owned: Rent Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Household Members: Name Age Charles F Bryant 68 Doctor/Dentist Mary E Bryant 66
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MarieCeleste
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16 Jan 2012 20:45 |
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Looks like Lester stayed in Illinnois:
1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Lester F Bryant Birth Year: abt 1881 Birthplace: England Home in 1930: River Forest, Cook, Illinois Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Ethel S Bryant Occupation: Dentist Education: Military Service: Rent/home value: $15,000 Age at first marriage: 27 Parents' birthplace: View image
Household Members: Name Age Lester F Bryant 49 Ethel S Bryant 46 Mary Ellen Shink 75 Tennie Weston
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MarieCeleste
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16 Jan 2012 20:51 |
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Wonder if Lester used his middle name?
California Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Edward F Bryant Social Security #: 0 Sex: Male Birth Date: 23 May 1880 Birthplace: Other Country Death Date: 31 Jul 1952 Death Place: San Francisco Father's Surname: Bryant Does that birth date fit?
EDIT: No forget that one, this looks right:
Social Security Death Index
Name: Lester Bryant SSN: 356-32-4528 Last Residence: Illinois Born: 19 Nov 1878 Died: Aug 1965 State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (1956-1958)
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dizzyjo
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16 Jan 2012 20:57 |
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MarieCeleste
Many thanks for the various US Census. I certainly had not tracked Charles and his wife Mary to California for their retirement in the sun!!
There is somewhere that one can go to get their Social Security nos etc which gives date of death., but it is one of those things that I do not do very often from UK, so have forgotten how to find this out.
Stanley Charles Bryant married an Emma ??? in US, I guess Illinois, Cook area He must have got married between 1900 and about 1904, because on the 1910 census, I have him having a 6 year old child
Many thanks indeed for your help Regards Jo
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MarieCeleste
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16 Jan 2012 20:59 |
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Jo have got to go now, try looking on Family Search http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp for deaths SS index may be on there.
Someone else will no doubt come along and pick up where I've left off......
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dizzyjo
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16 Jan 2012 21:01 |
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Marie Celeste
Yes, you are coming up trumps. Thank you. Lester was born in the Dec Quarter of 1878, which means either October/November/December, so yes, born 19 Nov 1878 fits the bill and died Aug 1965, in Illinois Another gap filled in. Thank you Jo
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MarieCeleste
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16 Jan 2012 22:45 |
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Here's Lester's baptism, shame it doesn't give actual birth date:
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Leicester Edward Franklin Bryant Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1879 Baptism Date: 2 Feb 1879 Father's Name: Charles Bryant < Gunmaker Mother's Name: Mary Bryant Parish or Poor Law Union: Walworth Common Borough: Southwark Register Type: Parish Registers
Address was 92 Westmoreland Road.
Father's occupation is a bit different to dentist!!
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MarieCeleste
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16 Jan 2012 22:51 |
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A possible for Lester's wife's death:
Social Security Death Index
Name: Ethel Bryant SSN: 319-40-4949 Last Residence: 60305 River Forest, Cook, Illinois, United States of America Born: 26 Jan 1884 Died: Aug 1973 State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (1963)
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MarieCeleste
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16 Jan 2012 23:00 |
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Stanley Charles' military:
U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Stanley Charles Bryant Birth Date: 12 Jul 1880 Birth Place: London, England Residence: Des Plaines, Illinois Race: White Age: Occupation: Nearest Relative: Names Dr Lester F Bryant Height/Build: Colour of Eyes/Hair: Signature: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Stanley Charles Bryant City: Chicago County: Cook State: Illinois Birth Date: 12 Jul 1880 Race: White FHL Roll Number: 1613913 DraftBoard: 66
nok is wife Emma. Have sent original images to Jo.
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MarieCeleste
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16 Jan 2012 23:05 |
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The marriages for Cook County on Ancestry only start from 1930 so may not be able to get the sons' marriages ......
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MarieCeleste
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16 Jan 2012 23:11 |
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In case you don't have these:
1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Stanley C Bryant Age: 39 Birth Year: abt 1881 Birthplace: England Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 28, Cook (Chicago), Illinois Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1880 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Emma Bryant Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: England Home Owned: Own Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes
Household Members: Name Age Stanley C Bryant 39 < Signal Engineer Emma Bryant 39 Dorathea M Bryant 16 Eleanor E Bryant 13 Marion V Bryant 2
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1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Stanley Bryant Birth Year: abt 1881 Birthplace: England Home in 1930: Maine, Cook, Illinois Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Emma Bryant Occupation: Electrical Engineer on steam railroad Education: Military Service: Rent/home value: $16,500 Age at first marriage: 22
Parents' birthplace: View image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Stanley Bryant 49 Emma Bryant 49 Eleanor Bryant 24 < Secretary to lawyers Marian Bryant 12
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17 Jan 2012 11:07 |
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Magnify 4 clicks, then save image
http://www.archive.org/stream/12thcensusofpopu258unit#page/n332/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu343unit#page/n756/mode/1up http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu362unit#page/n32/mode/1up http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu124unit#page/n82/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/illinoiscensus00reel501#page/n853/mode/1up http://www.archive.org/stream/illinoiscensus00reel508#page/n210/mode/1up http://www.archive.org/stream/californiacensus00reel189#page/n1143/mode/1up http://www.archive.org/stream/californiacensus00reel189#page/n1144/mode/1up
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dizzyjo
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17 Jan 2012 14:11 |
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MarieCeleste
You have been busy while I went to bed for the night, and I don't usually turn the computer on until I have done my day's work. Thank you very much for everything - will sort it through later tonight. Very pleased with the Registration Card / World War Draft cards draft cards for Stanley Charles Bryant. His signature, address, everything, thank you. Also Ethel's death. Will check it all out this evening. Thank you very much Jo
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Bazz
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17 Jan 2012 16:54 |
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According to an Ancestry tree Lester married a Ethel S Shonk b 1884 whose parents were Charles W Shonk b 1856 Ohio and Mary E ??? b 1857 also Ohio
From the same source - Emma died 1964 Chicago
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MarieCeleste
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17 Jan 2012 19:20 |
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Bazz, that would tie in with Mary Ellen Shink with them in the 1930 census, most likely is Ethel's mother.
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