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dizzyjo

dizzyjo Report 16 Jan 2012 20:13

I have a family that emigrated to US in the 1880s They are Charles F Bryant b 21 Jan 1852 in Camden Town and his wife Mary E. Johnson b approx 1855 in London.
They had children Lester Edward F Bryant b 1878 in Lambeth and Stanley Charles Bryant b 1880 Lambeth.

Looking for the deaths of Charles F. Bryant, Mary E. Johnson, Lester Edward F. Bryant and Stanley Charles Bryant. Believe they went to Illinois, USA

I know Stanley Charles Bryant had 3 girls, Dorothy, Eleanor and Marion.
Can anyone help me please.
Have Ancestry UK, but not USA
Many thanks
Jo

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Jan 2012 20:27

Still alive and in California in 1930:

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Charles F Bryant
Birth Year: abt 1851
Birthplace: England
Home in 1930: Yucaipa, San Bernardino, California

Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary E Bryant
Occupation: Farmer on own farm
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage: 23

Parents' birthplace: England

Household Members: Name Age
Charles F Bryant 79
Mary E Bryant 75

Year of immigration for both was 1881.


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Jan 2012 20:34

The problem with US records is that they have separate records for each state (often separate records for counties within state) - can't see anything for Charles in California ......

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Jan 2012 20:36

Here's the 1900 so we can see ages, etc (they were in Illinnois then):

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Charles Bryant [Charles F Bryant]
Age: 46
Birth Date: Jan 1854
Birthplace: England
Home in 1900: Chicago Ward 12, Cook, Illinois [Chicago, Cook, Illinois]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1881
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Mary E Bryant
Marriage Year: 1876
Years Married: 24
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Occupation: Dentist

Household Members: Name Age
Charles Bryant 46
Mary E Bryant 43
Lester F Bryant 21 D Student
Stanley C Bryant 19 Electrician

dizzyjo

dizzyjo Report 16 Jan 2012 20:36

Marie Celeste

Many thanks for that info. I wonder when they moved to California, because in 1900 I have them in Cook, Illinois, a Chicago ward.

Thank you for your help and added info
Regards
Jo

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Jan 2012 20:41

Can't see them on 1910, but in California 1920 (perhaps they wanted to retire to the sun!)

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Charles F Bryant
Age: 68
Birth Year: abt 1852
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: Santa Ana Ward 1, Orange, California
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1851 [1881]
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Mary E Bryant
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Home Owned: Rent
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes

Household Members: Name Age
Charles F Bryant 68 Doctor/Dentist
Mary E Bryant 66



MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Jan 2012 20:45

Looks like Lester stayed in Illinnois:

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Lester F Bryant
Birth Year: abt 1881
Birthplace: England
Home in 1930: River Forest, Cook, Illinois
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Ethel S Bryant
Occupation: Dentist
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value: $15,000
Age at first marriage: 27
Parents' birthplace: View image

Household Members: Name Age
Lester F Bryant 49
Ethel S Bryant 46
Mary Ellen Shink 75
Tennie Weston


MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Jan 2012 20:51

Wonder if Lester used his middle name?

California Death Index, 1940-1997

Name: Edward F Bryant
Social Security #: 0
Sex: Male
Birth Date: 23 May 1880
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 31 Jul 1952
Death Place: San Francisco
Father's Surname: Bryant

Does that birth date fit?

EDIT: No forget that one, this looks right:

Social Security Death Index

Name: Lester Bryant
SSN: 356-32-4528
Last Residence: Illinois
Born: 19 Nov 1878
Died: Aug 1965
State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (1956-1958)

dizzyjo

dizzyjo Report 16 Jan 2012 20:57

MarieCeleste

Many thanks for the various US Census. I certainly had not tracked Charles and his wife Mary to California for their retirement in the sun!!

There is somewhere that one can go to get their Social Security nos etc which gives date of death., but it is one of those things that I do not do very often from UK, so have forgotten how to find this out.

Stanley Charles Bryant married an Emma ??? in US, I guess Illinois, Cook area
He must have got married between 1900 and about 1904, because on the 1910 census, I have him having a 6 year old child

Many thanks indeed for your help
Regards
Jo

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Jan 2012 20:59

Jo have got to go now, try looking on Family Search http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp for deaths SS index may be on there.

Someone else will no doubt come along and pick up where I've left off......

dizzyjo

dizzyjo Report 16 Jan 2012 21:01

Marie Celeste

Yes, you are coming up trumps. Thank you. Lester was born in the Dec Quarter of 1878, which means either October/November/December, so yes, born 19 Nov 1878 fits the bill and died Aug 1965, in Illinois
Another gap filled in.
Thank you
Jo

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Jan 2012 22:45

Here's Lester's baptism, shame it doesn't give actual birth date:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Leicester Edward Franklin Bryant
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1879
Baptism Date: 2 Feb 1879
Father's Name: Charles Bryant < Gunmaker
Mother's Name: Mary Bryant
Parish or Poor Law Union: Walworth Common
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address was 92 Westmoreland Road.

Father's occupation is a bit different to dentist!!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Jan 2012 22:51

A possible for Lester's wife's death:

Social Security Death Index

Name: Ethel Bryant
SSN: 319-40-4949
Last Residence: 60305 River Forest, Cook, Illinois, United States of America
Born: 26 Jan 1884
Died: Aug 1973
State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (1963)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Jan 2012 23:00

Stanley Charles' military:

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942

Name: Stanley Charles Bryant
Birth Date: 12 Jul 1880
Birth Place: London, England
Residence: Des Plaines, Illinois
Race: White
Age:
Occupation:
Nearest Relative: Names Dr Lester F Bryant
Height/Build:
Colour of Eyes/Hair:
Signature:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

Name: Stanley Charles Bryant
City: Chicago
County: Cook
State: Illinois
Birth Date: 12 Jul 1880
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1613913
DraftBoard: 66

nok is wife Emma.

Have sent original images to Jo.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Jan 2012 23:05

The marriages for Cook County on Ancestry only start from 1930 so may not be able to get the sons' marriages ......

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 Jan 2012 23:11

In case you don't have these:

1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Stanley C Bryant
Age: 39
Birth Year: abt 1881
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 28, Cook (Chicago), Illinois
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1880
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Emma Bryant
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Home Owned: Own
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes

Household Members: Name Age
Stanley C Bryant 39 < Signal Engineer
Emma Bryant 39
Dorathea M Bryant 16
Eleanor E Bryant 13
Marion V Bryant 2

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Stanley Bryant
Birth Year: abt 1881
Birthplace: England
Home in 1930: Maine, Cook, Illinois
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma Bryant
Occupation: Electrical Engineer on steam railroad
Education:
Military Service:
Rent/home value: $16,500
Age at first marriage: 22

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Stanley Bryant 49
Emma Bryant 49
Eleanor Bryant 24 < Secretary to lawyers
Marian Bryant 12

mgnv

mgnv Report 17 Jan 2012 11:07

Magnify 4 clicks, then save image

http://www.archive.org/stream/12thcensusofpopu258unit#page/n332/mode/1up

http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu343unit#page/n756/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu362unit#page/n32/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu124unit#page/n82/mode/1up

http://www.archive.org/stream/illinoiscensus00reel501#page/n853/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/illinoiscensus00reel508#page/n210/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/californiacensus00reel189#page/n1143/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/californiacensus00reel189#page/n1144/mode/1up

dizzyjo

dizzyjo Report 17 Jan 2012 14:11

MarieCeleste

You have been busy while I went to bed for the night, and I don't usually turn the computer on until I have done my day's work.
Thank you very much for everything - will sort it through later tonight. Very pleased with the Registration Card / World War Draft cards draft cards for Stanley Charles Bryant. His signature, address, everything, thank you.
Also Ethel's death. Will check it all out this evening.
Thank you very much
Jo

Bazz

Bazz Report 17 Jan 2012 16:54

According to an Ancestry tree Lester married a Ethel S Shonk b 1884 whose parents were
Charles W Shonk b 1856 Ohio and
Mary E ??? b 1857 also Ohio

From the same source - Emma died 1964 Chicago

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Jan 2012 19:20

Bazz, that would tie in with Mary Ellen Shink with them in the 1930 census, most likely is Ethel's mother.