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This may be Phoebes Death/Burial Toxteth Park Cem.

HIBBS Phoebe Ann 36 years Wife 10 Alma Street Everton 26 May 1916

What address do you have on the BC of Alex...(1890)

Looks like Margaret is here in 1911


1911 England Census
Name: Morgaret Hibbs
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Toxteth Park
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 35 Peel St Lpool
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Servant (domestic)
Registration district: Toxteth Park
Registration District Number: 454
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park Central
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 22261
Household Members: Name Age

Joshua Ganne 39
Minnie Ganne 33
Irene Ganne 12
Madeline Ganne 10
Loetitia Clampet 62
Charles Clampet 35
Morgaret Hibbs 17 <<<<<<<<


And her brother, now married


1911 England Census
Name: William James Hibbs
Age in 1911: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Toxteth, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Toxteth Park
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 40 Cullen Street
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Painter
Registration district: Toxteth Park
Registration District Number: 454
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park East
ED, institution, or vessel: 01
Piece: 22279
Household Members: Name Age
William James Hibbs 25
Phoebe Ann Hibbs 30
Mary Phoebe Hibbs 1

Wow! Thank you all for your input I need to collate all this info! Thomas Hibbs and Anna Harrison were born about 1864 in Liverpool - taken from census - he died 6th May 1895. William James Hibbs was the 1st born 1887 in Liverpool, followed by Alexander 7/2/1890 (I have his birth cert,) and lastly Margaret Ann about 1894 again in Liverpool. In 1901 Anna had reverted to her maiden name and living with her married sister Sarah Souter. 1911 she is in Edge Hill, still Harrison, living with her mother Jane Harrison. No trace of the 3 offspring!

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Maureen

How does this look:
Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about Margaret Ann Shaw
Name: Margaret Ann Shaw: widow
Birth Year: abt 1868
Age: 50
Marriage Date: 9 Jun 1918
Parish: Liverpool St Peter
Spouse's Name: John Doyle
Father's Name: James Hibbs Occ:Mariner
Spouse Father's Name: John Doyle

I think she's Thomas' sister on the 1871? Maybe????

And one of the witnesses to the Cauldfield/Hibbs marriage was Margaret Ann Shaw.

Do you think this could be Alexander Hibbs in 1891 with his aunt??

1891 census transcription details for: 2, Robertson Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
RG number: RG12 Piece: 2926 Folio: 49 Page: 39

Reg. District: Toxteth Park Sub District: Toxteth Park
SHAW, Thomas Head Married M 30 1861 Dock Labourer
Liverpool
Lancashire
SHAW, Margaret A Wife Married F 28 1863
Liverpool
Lancashire
SHAW, Alexander Son M 1 1890
Liverpool
Lancashire


Maureen

Edit: And I still don't see that first marriage-ie Hibbs and Harrison.

Another possible child

Name: Margaret Ann Hibbs
Birth Year: abt 1894
Age: 21
Marriage Date: 23 May 1915
Parish: Toxteth St Matthew
Spouse's Name: John Banks
Father's Name: Thomas Hibbs
Spouse Father's Name: Thomas Banks

Re Maureenin NY's post "The marriage cert on Ancestry says she's a widow and her father's name is Alexander Hibbs.

That doesn't compute!!!!"

I've found several in my own searches like that, the widow on remarrying has had her late husband's father listed as her own, so that's a possible, also had a brother listed as father ( I presume he was 'giving' the bride away)

is this the James R from the 1871 census above

Baptisms: 2 Dec 1856 St Matthias, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
James Robert Smith Hibbs - Child of James Hibbs & Ann
Abode: Whitley St
Occupation: Mariner
Baptised by: R Vinct Sheldon
Register: Baptisms 1834 - 1926, Page 65, Entry 516
Source: LDS Film 1656207

This could be Alexander in 1911..

HIBBS, Alexander Single M 21 1890 Soldier Lancs Liverpool VIEW
SMETHURST, Ernest Baker Single M 19 1892 Soldier Lancs Manchester VIEW
EYETT, Edward Single M 18 1893 Soldier Lancs Liverpool VIEW
BLACK, Walter Single M 25 1886 Soldier Lincs Sedney VIEW

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Address:
St Peter's Barracks Jersey County:
Jersey

Sounds a good guess but the children are still completely illusive!

Did the mother re-marry?

Marriages Mar 1897
CAULFIELD Simon Toxteth Park 8b 332
Hibbs Mary Toxteth Park 8b 332

The marriage cert on Ancestry says she's a widow and her father's name is Alexander Hibbs.

That doesn't compute!!!!

1901 census transcription details for: 3, 4, House Court, St John Place, Toxteth Park
RG number: RG13 Piece: 3428 Folio: 16 Page: 23

Reg. District: Toxteth Park Sub District: Toxteth Park
CAULDFIELD, Simon Head Married M 40 1861 Dock Labourer
Liverpool
Lancashire
CAULDFIELD, Hannah M Wife Married F 32 1869
Liverpool
Lancashire


Just guessing!!

Maureen

Possibility this is Thomas R. (Robert)....Buried Toxteth Park Cem.

HIBBS Thomas Robert 31 years - Workhouse Toxteth Park 12 May 1895

If that was the first child he did not survive

Name: Thomas Robert Hibbs
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1889
Age at Death: 1
Registration district: Toxteth Park
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 133 (click to see others on page

Possibly the marriage of one of the children but I can't find him or any of the family in 1891 or 1901.

Name: Alexander Hibbs
Birth Year: abt 1890
Age: 28
Marriage Date: 19 May 1918
Parish: Toxteth St Matthew
Spouse's Name: Alice Ann Brown
Father's Name: Thomas Robert Hibbs
Spouse Father's Name: John Alexander Brown

This is the only Hibbs / Harrison marriage that I can see

Marriages Dec 1884
HARRISON Sarah Bakewell 7b 1263
HIBBS Robert Bakewell 7b 1263
Noton John Bakewell 7b 1263
Wragge Annie Bakewell 7b 1263

Which would be this couple?

1891

Name: Robert Hibbs
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Hibbs
Gender: Male
Where born: Rowsley, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Bakewell
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Bakewell
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bakewell
Sub-registration district: Bakewell
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2773
Folio: 32
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Hibbs 30 Farm Labourer
Sarah Hibbs 30
Florence Hibbs 5
Robert W Hibbs 7/12

1871

Name: Thomas R Hibbs
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Hibbs
Mother's name: Anne Hibbs
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 3798
Folio: 42
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
James Hibbs 39
Anne Hibbs 39
James R Hibbs 14
William Hibbs 14
Elizabeth J Hibbs 11
Margaret A Hibbs 9
Thomas R Hibbs 6

First born ??

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1888
HIBBS Thomas R Toxteth Park Liverpool

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Name: Thomas Hibbs
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1895
Age at Death: 31
Registration district: Toxteth Park
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 153 (click to see others on page)

The only marriage I can see for a Thomas R. Hibbs in Liverpool is in 1977 (so about 100 years later and to someone different).

Kath. x

Please

When and where were Anna and Thomas born?
Could it have been Anna's second marriage?
Do you have them in any census?

Joseph