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Hi,
I'm trying to find the marriage record of Thomas R HIBBS to Anna Mary HARRISON in Liverpool about 1885 (first born child 1887) I've run out of places to look!!
Regards
Kay

If the marriage isnt on FreeBMD then maybe they didnt marry

Can you tell us the name of the first child please?

Before he married in 1881

HIBBS, James Head Married M 50 1831 Marriner
Northumberland
Northumberland VIEW
HIBBS, Elizth Jane Daughter Single F 20 1861
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
HIBBS, Margt Daughter Single F 18 1863
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
HIBBS, Thomas R Son Single M 17 1864 General Laborer
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, John Boarder Married M 24 1857 General Laborer
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, Ann Boarder Married F 26 1855
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, Sarah A Boarder Single F 3 1878
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW
SHAW, Elizth Boarder Single F 2 1879
Liverpool
Lancashire VIEW

Civil Parish:
Toxteth Park Municipal Borough:
Address:
111, Wolfe St, Toxteth Park County:
Lancashire

Please

When and where were Anna and Thomas born?
Could it have been Anna's second marriage?
Do you have them in any census?

Joseph

The only marriage I can see for a Thomas R. Hibbs in Liverpool is in 1977 (so about 100 years later and to someone different).

Kath. x

??

Name: Thomas Hibbs
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1895
Age at Death: 31
Registration district: Toxteth Park
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 153 (click to see others on page)

First born ??

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1888
HIBBS Thomas R Toxteth Park Liverpool

1871

Name: Thomas R Hibbs
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Hibbs
Mother's name: Anne Hibbs
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 3798
Folio: 42
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
James Hibbs 39
Anne Hibbs 39
James R Hibbs 14
William Hibbs 14
Elizabeth J Hibbs 11
Margaret A Hibbs 9
Thomas R Hibbs 6

This is the only Hibbs / Harrison marriage that I can see

Marriages Dec 1884
HARRISON Sarah Bakewell 7b 1263
HIBBS Robert Bakewell 7b 1263
Noton John Bakewell 7b 1263
Wragge Annie Bakewell 7b 1263

Which would be this couple?

1891

Name: Robert Hibbs
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Hibbs
Gender: Male
Where born: Rowsley, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Bakewell
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Bakewell
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Bakewell
Sub-registration district: Bakewell
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2773
Folio: 32
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Hibbs 30 Farm Labourer
Sarah Hibbs 30
Florence Hibbs 5
Robert W Hibbs 7/12

Possibly the marriage of one of the children but I can't find him or any of the family in 1891 or 1901.

Name: Alexander Hibbs
Birth Year: abt 1890
Age: 28
Marriage Date: 19 May 1918
Parish: Toxteth St Matthew
Spouse's Name: Alice Ann Brown
Father's Name: Thomas Robert Hibbs
Spouse Father's Name: John Alexander Brown

If that was the first child he did not survive

Name: Thomas Robert Hibbs
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1889
Age at Death: 1
Registration district: Toxteth Park
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 133 (click to see others on page

Possibility this is Thomas R. (Robert)....Buried Toxteth Park Cem.

HIBBS Thomas Robert 31 years - Workhouse Toxteth Park 12 May 1895

Did the mother re-marry?

Marriages Mar 1897
CAULFIELD Simon Toxteth Park 8b 332
Hibbs Mary Toxteth Park 8b 332

The marriage cert on Ancestry says she's a widow and her father's name is Alexander Hibbs.

That doesn't compute!!!!

1901 census transcription details for: 3, 4, House Court, St John Place, Toxteth Park
RG number: RG13 Piece: 3428 Folio: 16 Page: 23

Reg. District: Toxteth Park Sub District: Toxteth Park
CAULDFIELD, Simon Head Married M 40 1861 Dock Labourer
Liverpool
Lancashire
CAULDFIELD, Hannah M Wife Married F 32 1869
Liverpool
Lancashire


Just guessing!!

Maureen

Sounds a good guess but the children are still completely illusive!

This could be Alexander in 1911..

HIBBS, Alexander Single M 21 1890 Soldier Lancs Liverpool VIEW
SMETHURST, Ernest Baker Single M 19 1892 Soldier Lancs Manchester VIEW
EYETT, Edward Single M 18 1893 Soldier Lancs Liverpool VIEW
BLACK, Walter Single M 25 1886 Soldier Lincs Sedney VIEW

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Address:
St Peter's Barracks Jersey County:
Jersey

is this the James R from the 1871 census above

Baptisms: 2 Dec 1856 St Matthias, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
James Robert Smith Hibbs - Child of James Hibbs & Ann
Abode: Whitley St
Occupation: Mariner
Baptised by: R Vinct Sheldon
Register: Baptisms 1834 - 1926, Page 65, Entry 516
Source: LDS Film 1656207

Re Maureenin NY's post "The marriage cert on Ancestry says she's a widow and her father's name is Alexander Hibbs.

That doesn't compute!!!!"

I've found several in my own searches like that, the widow on remarrying has had her late husband's father listed as her own, so that's a possible, also had a brother listed as father ( I presume he was 'giving' the bride away)

Another possible child

Name: Margaret Ann Hibbs
Birth Year: abt 1894
Age: 21
Marriage Date: 23 May 1915
Parish: Toxteth St Matthew
Spouse's Name: John Banks
Father's Name: Thomas Hibbs
Spouse Father's Name: Thomas Banks

How does this look:
Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about Margaret Ann Shaw
Name: Margaret Ann Shaw: widow
Birth Year: abt 1868
Age: 50
Marriage Date: 9 Jun 1918
Parish: Liverpool St Peter
Spouse's Name: John Doyle
Father's Name: James Hibbs Occ:Mariner
Spouse Father's Name: John Doyle

I think she's Thomas' sister on the 1871? Maybe????

And one of the witnesses to the Cauldfield/Hibbs marriage was Margaret Ann Shaw.

Do you think this could be Alexander Hibbs in 1891 with his aunt??

1891 census transcription details for: 2, Robertson Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
RG number: RG12 Piece: 2926 Folio: 49 Page: 39

Reg. District: Toxteth Park Sub District: Toxteth Park
SHAW, Thomas Head Married M 30 1861 Dock Labourer
Liverpool
Lancashire
SHAW, Margaret A Wife Married F 28 1863
Liverpool
Lancashire
SHAW, Alexander Son M 1 1890
Liverpool
Lancashire


Maureen

Edit: And I still don't see that first marriage-ie Hibbs and Harrison.