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Ephraim Speckman (aslo known as Spackman)

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Nov 2011 23:53

it's really very strange


I can only find Ephraim on the 1851 Census

I've found his purported father, and a couple of siblings on the 1841, still lviing in Clyffe Pypard

But no sign of an Ephraim


No sign of him on later censuses

No sign of a death registration for an Ephraim, except for that one in 1914.


No sign of an Ephraim being born between 1851 and 1914 to account for that death registration


There is the death of a Thomas Ephraim Sp*ckman, but nothing for an Ephraim as only forename.


and Ephraim does not seem to have had a second name that he could have decided to use.





sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Nov 2011 23:35

Just clearing up some things

child Amelia Sarah Coveney died young

London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 about Amelia Sarah Coveney

Name: Amelia Sarah Coveney
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1834
Burial Date: 2 Mar 1834
Age: 1 Year 8 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Address:- Princes Street



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Nov 2011 23:22

I assume this is Ephraim's baptism


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Ephraim Spackman

Name: Ephraim Spackman
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1817
Christening Date: 16 Mar 1817
Christening Place: Cliffe Pypard, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name: Benjamin Spackman
Mother's Name: Mary




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Nov 2011 23:19

I keep coming back to this one that patchem found ............... which is the ONLY Ephraim Sp*ckman that shows up


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Ephraim Spackman

Name: Ephraim Spackman
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1914
Registration district: St George in The East
Inferred County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 2
Page: 145 (click to see others on page)


There is no way to find out any more without buying the certificate, unfortunately.




I wonder if Ephraim just abandoned Ann and the family??





sylvia

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 3 Nov 2011 22:07

What a mystery! Thank you. Haven't got the birth cert but will try to get it. will keep trying to find Ephraim but am not very hopeful.He seems to have vanished off the face of the earth.

patchem

patchem Report 3 Nov 2011 17:17

Elizabeth,
Sylvia has pointed out that Albert could have reverted to his original name of Coveney, as he is not Ephraim's son, but Ann's from her first marriage.
Ephraim and Ann married in 1836, Albert was born in 1835.
Have you got your ancestor Tom's birth certificate which should show his Mother's maiden name as (probably) Shearman.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 3 Nov 2011 16:35

Thanks for all your help. I just don't know where else to look for Ephraim and Albert!!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Nov 2011 04:26

Prisoners are usually shown by initial sonly


and there are lots of a c on all censuses!




is it possible that he could have gone back to his birth name of Coveney?




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Nov 2011 04:19

In the 1851 Census, Albert Speckman is a Blacksmith, b. ca 1835, St George, Middlesex





sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Nov 2011 04:18

?????????????????????/

from ancestry

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 about Albert Coveney

Name: Albert Coveney
Date of Trial: 12 Jun 1854
Trial Year: 1854
Location of Trial: Middlesex, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

Crime:- Larceny from Person
Sentence:- 4 years

??????????????????????????



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Nov 2011 04:12

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Albert Thomas Coveney

Name: Albert Thomas Coveney
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1834
Baptism Date: 13 Jul 1834
Father's Name: Albert Granvill Coveney
Mother's Name: Ann Amelia Coveney
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Born 25 May 1885
Address:- Princes Street
Father occupation:- Brewers' Servant


it does not say that Albert Granville is deceased.




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Nov 2011 04:09

???????????????????????? possible ?????????????


from beta.familysearch

Historical Records

Albert Grenville Coveney
England Marriages, 1538?1973
marriage: 26 Sep 1831 Spitalfields Christ Church,?Stepney,?London,?England


from ancestry

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Albert Grenville Coveney

Name: Albert Grenville Coveney
Spouse Name: Ann Amelia Shearman
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 26 Sep 1831
Parish: Christ Church, Spitalfields
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
spouse: Ann Amelia Shearman

from image:-

Albert
Bachelor
"Of This Parish"

Ann Amelia
Spinster
"Of This Parish"



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Amelia Sarah Coveney

Name: Amelia Sarah Coveney
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1832
Baptism Date: 29 Jul 1832
Father's Name: Albert Grenville Coveney, Labourer
Mother's Name: Ann Amelia Coveney
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Born 13 June 1832
Address:- Princes Street


London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 about Albert Granwill Coveney

Name: Albert Granwill Coveney
Record Type: Burial
Estimated Death Date: abt 1834
Burial Date: 16 Feb 1834
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Address:- Princes Street




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 3 Nov 2011 03:58

Do you have Ephraim's marriage?

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Ephraim Spackman

Name: Ephraim Spackman
Spouse Name: Ann Anelia Coveney
Record Type: Banns
Marriage Bann Date: 04 Sep 1836
Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
County: Surrey
Borough: Hackney

from image:--

Ephraim
Bachelor
"Of This Parish"

Ann
Widow
"Of This Parish"

Witnesses:- Jacob Camp and Jane Sherman



sylvia

patchem

patchem Report 2 Nov 2011 22:02

There is this death, no image available, not showing on free bmd, makes him rather elderly:
Ephraim Spackman
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1914
Registration district: St George in The East
Inferred County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 2
Page: 145

patchem

patchem Report 2 Nov 2011 21:37

Is his wife claiming unmarried in 1861?
1861 England Census
Ann Spakeman
Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Boarder Gender: Female
Where born: St George, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St George in The East
County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: St George In The East Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 101 Piece: 281 Folio: 118 Page Number: 17

Elizabeth Thompson 34 unm
Ann Spakeman 48 ''
Thomas Spakeman 10

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 281; Folio: 118; Page: 17; GSU roll: 542606.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Report 2 Nov 2011 21:34

Yes, thats the daughter Ann.

patchem

patchem Report 2 Nov 2011 21:30

Ann is on her own in 1861
Ann Speckman
Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: St George in The East Civil parish: St George in The East County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Occupation: parasol maker Registration district: St George In The East
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 3 Piece: 281
Folio: 110 Page Number: 1
Ann Speckman 18
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 281; Folio: 110; Page: 1; GSU roll: 542606.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Nov 2011 21:24

Name: Ann Amelia Sarah Spachman
Spouse Name: Francis David Mayers - foreman on docks
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 29 Aug 1864
Parish: St James the Great, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Ephraim Spachman - cow keeper
Spouse Father Name: Francis Mayers

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 Nov 2011 21:22

I think 1839 is when Harriet was born?

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Harriet Ann Spackman, spinster - office cleaner
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Spouse Name: Charles Gooding, widower - cooper
Spouse Age: 47
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 21 Jun 1886
Parish: St Thomas, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Ephraim Spackman (deceased) Cow Keeper
Spouse Father Name: Elizah Gooding (deceased) - Carpenter

patchem

patchem Report 2 Nov 2011 21:21

Ephraim is deceased by this marriage:
Harriet Ann Spackman
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Spouse Name: Charles Gooding
Spouse Age: 47
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 21 Jun 1886
Parish: St Thomas, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Ephraim Spackman
Spouse Father Name: Elizah Gooding