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Jean

Jean Report 28 Oct 2011 22:02

i am trying to find who Hannah Agar married in Helmsley, in yorkshire ,1861 iam trying to find a match with James Lodge of Huddersfield .They had a daughter Ann Elizabeth Agar Lodge in 1862 please can somebody help me thanks Jean

Abby

Abby Report 28 Oct 2011 22:13

????

Groom's Name: John Frank
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Hannah Agar
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 05 Dec 1861
Marriage Place: York, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03359-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1470536

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1861
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
AGAR Hannah FRANK John Kirbymoorside All Saints, Ryedale Harrogate C33RY/1/366

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 28 Oct 2011 22:14

???

Elizabeth Ann Lodge
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 08 Jan 1865
christening: 05 Mar 1865 Dewsbury,? York,? England
residence: 1865 York,? England
parents: James Lodge,? Hannah Lodge


name: Elizabeth Ann Lodge
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 05 Mar 1865
baptism/christening place: Dewsbury, York, England
birth date: 08 Jan 1865
father's name: James Lodge
mother's name: Hannah Lodge
indexing project (batch) number: C01980-7
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1542271

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Oct 2011 22:15

Just for info

Name: Anne Elizabeth Agar Lodge
Birth Date: 25 Apr 1862
Parish: Huddersfield, St Paul
Baptism Date: 17 Apr 1870
Father's Name: James Lodge
Mother's Name: Hannah Lodge


Name: Annie Elizabeth Agar Lodge
Birth Year: abt 1861
Age: 19
Marriage or Bann Date: 10 Jul 1880
Parish: Huddersfield, St Peter, St Andrew, St Mark, etc.
Father's Name: James Lodge
Spouse's Name: Schofield Parkinson
Spouse's Father's Name: Abraham Parkinson

tempest

tempest Report 28 Oct 2011 22:17

a tree on ancestry has her parents as James Lodge and Hannah Agar

it also says she married Schofield Parkinson

Vera

Vera Report 28 Oct 2011 22:17

Marriages Mar 1863 (>99%)????????
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BROOKE Elizabeth Dewsbury 9b 547
GREENWOOD Hannah Dewsbury 9b 547
KERWIN Thomas Dewsbury 9B 547
LODGE James Dewsbury 9b 547


1871

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LODGE, James Head M 58 1813 Yorkshire VIEW
LODGE, Hannah Wife F 43 1828 Yorkshire VIEW
LODGE, Thomas Son M 21 1850 Yorkshire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Benjamin Son M 20 1851 Yorkshire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Scott Son M 16 1855 Yorkshire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Walter Son M 13 1858 Yorkshire VIEW
LODGE, Elizabeth Daughter F 6 1865 Yorkshire VIEW
LODGE, Hannah Daughter F 1 1870 Yorkshire VIEW

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Piece:
4604 Folio:
81 Page:
38 Registration District:
Dewsbury

Civil Parish:
Dewsbury Municipal Borough:
Dewsbury Address:
Beckitt Road, Dewsbury County:
Yorkshire

Regards vera

Flick

Flick Report 28 Oct 2011 22:20

You could purchase the child's birth cert for the facts

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 28 Oct 2011 22:23

???

Hannah Agar Compact Disc #4 Pin #440222 Pedigree
Sex: F

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Event(s)
Christening: 10 Jul 1847

Danby, Cleveland, Yorkshire, England

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Parents
Father: Richard Agar Disc #4 Pin #440158
Mother: Ann Walker Disc #4 Pin #439947

Flick

Flick Report 28 Oct 2011 22:23

Perhaps the parents weren't married...........to each other, at any rate

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Oct 2011 22:25

Name: James Lodge - widower, cloth weaver
Birth Year: abt 1833
Age: 30
Marriage or Bann Date: 15 Feb 1863
Parish: Batley, All Saints
Father's Name: Joseph Lodge
Spouse's Name: Hannah Greenwood - widow
Spouse's Father's Name: George Oldroyd


Not sure it is the right couple




Name: Hannah Oldroyd
Age: Minor
Marriage or Bann Date: 10 Aug 1846
Parish: Dewsbury, All Saints
Father's Name: George Oldroyd
Spouse's Name: Mark Greenwood
Spouse's Father's Name: Benjn Greenwood

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 28 Oct 2011 22:28

Schofield Parkinson
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1860 Huddsfd,? Yorkshire,? England
residence: 1881 Huddersfield,? Yorkshire (West Riding),? England
census: 1881 Huddersfield,? Yorkshire (West Riding),? England
spouse: Annie Parkinson
child: Keziah Parkinson


name: Schofield Parkinson
age: 21
gender: Male
birth year: 1860
birthplace: Huddsfd, Yorkshire, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession/occupation: Coal Miner
address: 17 Hawk St
census place: Huddersfield, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1342047
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 4384 / 166
page number: 42

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 28 Oct 2011 22:28

Schofield Parkinson
England and Wales Census, 1861
birth: 1859 Huddersfield,? Yorkshire
residence: 1861 Huddersfield,? Yorkshire (West Riding),? England
census: 1861 Huddersfield,? Yorkshire (West Riding),? England


name: Schofield Parkinson
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 2
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Huddersfield, Yorkshire
record type: Household
registration district: Huddersfield
sub-district: 9 Huddersfield
ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
civil parish: Huddersfield
county: Yorkshire (West Riding)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 28 Oct 2011 22:29

Schofield Parkinson
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
spouse: Annie Elizabeth
child: Mary Hannah


name: Mary Hannah
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 1891
baptism/christening place: SAINT MATTHEW, BURNLEY, LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND
father's name: Schofield Parkinson
mother's name: Annie Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: C16279-1
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1526143

Vera

Vera Report 28 Oct 2011 22:35

Marriages Sep 1846 (>99%)
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Greenwood Mark Dewsbury 22 21
Oldroyd Hannah Dewsbury 22 21


1851

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OLDROYD, Mary Head Widow F 44 1807 House Keeper
Doncaster
Yorkshire VIEW
OLDROYD, George Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Cloth Dyer
Doncaster
Yorkshire VIEW
OLDROYD, Mark Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Cloth Dyer
Doncaster
Yorkshire VIEW
OLDROYD, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Mill Worker
Doncaster
Yorkshire VIEW
OLDROYD, James Son M 10 1841 Bobbin Winder
Doncaster
Yorkshire VIEW
OLDROYD, William Son M 5 1846 Scholar
Dewsbury
Yorkshire VIEW
OLDROYD, Jane Daughter F 3 1848 Scholar
Dewsbury
Yorkshire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Mark Son-In-Law Married M 25 1826 Blanket Weaver
Soothill
Yorkshire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Hannah Daughter Married F 23 1828 Blanket Weaver Wife
Dewsbury
Yorkshire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Emma Grand Daughter F 3 1848
Dewsbury
Yorkshire VIEW

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Piece:
2324 Folio:
306 Page:
44 Registration District:
Dewsbury

Civil Parish:
Municipal Borough:
Address:
Westgate, Dewsbury County:
Yorkshire (West riding)



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1861 Look above to the 1871

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GREENWOOD, Hannah Head Widow F 32 1829 Mangler Of Clothes
Batley
Yorkshire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Emma Daughter Unmarried F 14 1847 Power Loom Weaver
Dewsbury
Yorkshire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Benjamin Son M 11 1850
Dewsbury
Yorkshire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Scott Son M 6 1855
Dewsbury
Yorkshire VIEW
GREENWOOD, Walter Son M 3 1858
Batley
Yorkshire VIEW

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Piece:
3400 Folio:
27 Page:
10 Registration District:
Dewsbury

Civil Parish:
Batley Municipal Borough:
Address:
Dale Street, Batley County:
Yorkshire (West Riding)



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Regards Vera

mgnv

mgnv Report 28 Oct 2011 22:51

Flick - re "Perhaps the parents weren't married...........to each other, at any rate"

My guess is they were wed. The NE of England is the most likely area to give the mum's MS in OPRs. Here's a transcription from 40m N of Danby that I happen to have handy:

DUR BTs - Kelloe (St Helen's - image 509 of 723)
BAPTISMS Solemnized in the Parish of Kelloe
in the County of Durham in the Year 1845
When Baptized; Child's Christian Name; Parents' Name; Abode; Quality, Trade or Profession; By whom the Ceremony was performed
November 16 [Entry] No 949; William; 2nd Son of William Benson & Isabella (late Douglas); Coxhoe Long Row; Pitman; W Skene Curate.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Oct 2011 23:10

Would like to know what exactly is the wording on the birth cert

Agar might be the surnameof a grandmother or something

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Oct 2011 23:18

Think I am missing something here

There are baptisms for Elizabeth Ann 1865 and Hannah Maria 1870 in Dewsbury to James and Hannah

So Elizabeth on 1871 is not Anne using her middle name

So where is Anne in 1871

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Oct 2011 23:25

Another thought

She was baptised in Huddersfield and married there

The address and occupation of her father on marriage cert do not match the info on the 1881 census for James and Hannah Lodge who are still in Dewsbury

Are we looking at the wrong family

Flick

Flick Report 29 Oct 2011 10:02

I would seriously doubt that Jean has the birth cert.............but until she returns to her thread, we are speculating about the whole scenario.

It seems odd that the child wasn't baptised until the age of 8, as there were no siblings baptised at the same time.

On the image of Anne's marriage record, James Lodge is a Labourer

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Oct 2011 10:36

I've sent Jean a message asking her to return