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Edward Gibson b 18111 Cartmel

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Oct 2011 05:00

hmmmmmmmmmmm

same source


England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for William James Gibson

Name: William James Gibson
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Dec 1870
Baptism/Christening Place: Dalton-in-Furness, Lancashire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizth. Gibson
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03459-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1657404
Reference Number: item 8 p 36




no father shown


Was there a daughter named Elizabeth?




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 4 Oct 2011 04:57

from beta.familysearch

Name: Edward Gibson
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 10 Jun 1868
Baptism/Christening Place: Bible Christian Church, Barrow, Lancashire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Gibson
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Grace Jamima
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03949-6
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1657403
Reference Number: item 19-21 p 27




sylvia

Barry

Barry Report 3 Oct 2011 23:18

The 2 trees from which I obtained the info both have John Isaac's father as Edward
I cannot vouch for it's accuracy as there are no attachments- sorry

Barry

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 3 Oct 2011 23:05

Barry - does that tree show proof that that is the right Edward.

The post of Flick's shows that on that John & Grace's marriage John's father is Edwin not Edward.

There are 2 Edward's born in Dalton in 1868, one of which has a mmn Grisdale, the other's mmn is not record on cumbriabmd. William james (probably brother) also has no mmn recorded indicating probably that the 2 without mmn were taken from a different village in the district of Dalton.

Also there is no John Isaac baptism on lan-opc whereas all the other children of Edward & Ann are shown (in fact the marriage record of Grace & John shows just the name John - no Isaac, nor is there a death in 1896 for a John Isaac. There are 2 John Gibson's born in Ulverston district in 1838/39

Baptisms: 20 Oct 1839 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England
John Gibson - Son of Edward Gibson & Ann
Abode: Dalton
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: J. T. Kirkbank
Register: Baptisms 1833 - 1848 from Bishop's Transcripts, Page 85, Entry 681
Source: LDS Film 1040304

Barry

Barry Report 3 Oct 2011 22:57

ACCORDING to trees On Ancestry Edward's parents were
John Isaac Gibson b 1839 Dalton in Furness d 1896 Dalton in Furness and
Grace Jemiima Grisedale b 1843 Allithwaite and died 1920 New Philidelphia Tuscarawas Ohio(2 daughters and 2 sons settled in the USA)
John Isaac's parents are as stated in the initial posting
There is no spouse on the record for Edward b 1869

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 3 Oct 2011 22:45

if you know that William james is Edward's brother this certificate will tell you parents names (order via GRO)

Births Dec 1870 (>99%)
Gibson William James Ulverston 8e 644

otherwise as it has been proved that the Edward on cumbriabmd.org.ukwith mmn = Grisdale is not the one you want you could order the other Edward's birth certificate through cumbraibmd - just follow the site instructions

Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GIBSON Edward Dalton Barrow D/24/224

Flick

Flick Report 3 Oct 2011 22:21

Try the following............

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

Flick

Flick Report 3 Oct 2011 22:16

Not with g/parents in 1881......

Name: Edward Gibson
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Gibson
Gender: Male
Where born: Cartmel, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Dalton in Furness
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 18 Skelgate
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Ulverston
Sub-registration district: Dalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4281
Folio: 113
Page Number: 85
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Gibson 70
Ann Gibson 67

Have you looked for the child/ren from 1871 in 1881?

Flick

Flick Report 3 Oct 2011 22:14

Do you know if he married?

Lorraine

Lorraine Report 3 Oct 2011 21:46

So sorry for not making it clear. I was hoping for information on Edward Gibson born 1869. I can only find information on him living with his Grandparents Edward born 1811 who was married to Ann. I can't find out who their Grandchild Edwards(1869) parents are.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Oct 2011 21:43

Didn't know, Flick, I'm in Canada.

Flick

Flick Report 3 Oct 2011 21:40

Wigan is a long way from Cartmel/Dalton area.................

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Oct 2011 21:38

Does this mean anything?

BENNETT OR GIBSON, Edward Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 2 Aug 1869 Recorded in: Wigan, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Catherine
Father: John BENNETT OR GIBSON
Mother: Martha
Source: FHL Film 1469056 Dates: 1864 - 1869

Flick

Flick Report 3 Oct 2011 21:30

Parents of ONE of the children as per above

Marriages Mar 1865 (>99%)
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Ainsworth John Ulverstone 8e 733
Gibson John Ulverstone 8e 733
GRISDALE Grace Jemima Ulverston 8e 733
Tyson Maria Ulverstone 8e 733
_______________________________________________

And 1871 census

Name: Grace Gibson
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Gibson
Gender: Female
Where born: Allethwaite Lanc, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Dalton
Ecclesiastical parish: Dalton
Town: Dalton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Ulverston
Sub-registration district: Dalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 272
Piece: 4243
Folio: 33
Page Number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
John Gibson 32
Grace Gibson 27
Isaac Gibson 4
John Gibson 11 Months
Thomas H Thompson 26
______________________________________________

Marriage: 14 Jan 1865 Priory Church of St Mary and St Michael, Cartmel, Lancashire, England
John Gibson - 25 Labourer Bachelor of Dalton in Furness
Grace Jemima Grisdale - 21 Spinster of Allithwaite
Groom's Father: Edwin Gibson, Labourer
Bride's Father: Isaac Grisdale, Labourer
Witness: Joseph Grisdale; Mary Grisdale
Married by Banns by: R.C.Hubbersty
Register: Marriages 1861 - 1869 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Entry 225
Source: LDS Film 1040300

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Oct 2011 21:30

This might help:

GIBSON, Edward Marriage
Wife: Ann POSTLETHWAITE
Marriage Date: 24 Nov 1838 Recorded in: Dalton In Furness, Lancashire, England
Husband's Father: John GIBSON
Wife's Father: John POSTLETHWAITE
Source: FHL Film 1471899 Dates: 1824 - 1861

Flick

Flick Report 3 Oct 2011 21:25

???????

Births Jun 1868 (>99%)
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GIBSON Edward Ulverstone 8e 758

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Births Dec 1868 (>99%)
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GIBSON Edward Ulverstone 8e 697

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From CUMBRIA BMD

Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GIBSON Edward Dalton Barrow D/24/224
GIBSON Edward Dalton Barrow GRISDALE D/23/214

Flick

Flick Report 3 Oct 2011 21:18

1871

Name: Edward Gibson
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Gibson
Gender: Male
Where born: Dalton Lanc, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Dalton
Ecclesiastical parish: Dalton
Town: Dalton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Ulverston
Sub-registration district: Dalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 271
Piece: 4243
Folio: 33
Page Number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Gibson 60
Ann Gibson 57
Thomas Gibson 20
Ann Gibson 17
Margaret Gibson 14
Edward Gibson 2 born DALTON
William J Gibson 6 Months

Flick

Flick Report 3 Oct 2011 21:17

I have a horrible feeling that Lorraine actually wants the names of 1869 child's parents.................although the assumption we initially made was perfectly reasonable, in view of the title of the thread

Flick

Flick Report 3 Oct 2011 21:13

Baptism: 5 Mar 1814 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England
Ann Postlethwaite - Dau of John Postlethwaite & Isabella
Abode: Newbarns
Occupation: Husbandman
Baptised by: C.Couperthwaite
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1832 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 12, Entry 91
Source: LDS Film 1040303

Flick

Flick Report 3 Oct 2011 21:11

I'd hoped the record from LancsOPC would help..........unfortunately not


Marriage: 24 Nov 1838 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England
Edward Gibson - (X), Bachelor of this Parish
Ann Postlethwaite - Spinster of Dalton
Witness: Miles Jackson Thexton; Jane Smith
Married by Banns by: John Pattenson
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1855 from Bishop's Transcripts, Page 19, Entry 37
Source: LDS Film 1040304