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SylviaInCanada
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4 Oct 2011 05:00 |
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hmmmmmmmmmmm
same source
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 for William James Gibson
Name: William James Gibson Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Dec 1870 Baptism/Christening Place: Dalton-in-Furness, Lancashire, England Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Elizth. Gibson Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03459-9 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 1657404 Reference Number: item 8 p 36
no father shown
Was there a daughter named Elizabeth?
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4 Oct 2011 04:57 |
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from beta.familysearch
Name: Edward Gibson Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 10 Jun 1868 Baptism/Christening Place: Bible Christian Church, Barrow, Lancashire, England Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: John Gibson Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Grace Jamima Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03949-6 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 1657403 Reference Number: item 19-21 p 27
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Barry
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3 Oct 2011 23:18 |
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The 2 trees from which I obtained the info both have John Isaac's father as Edward I cannot vouch for it's accuracy as there are no attachments- sorry
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lancashireAnn
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3 Oct 2011 23:05 |
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Barry - does that tree show proof that that is the right Edward.
The post of Flick's shows that on that John & Grace's marriage John's father is Edwin not Edward.
There are 2 Edward's born in Dalton in 1868, one of which has a mmn Grisdale, the other's mmn is not record on cumbriabmd. William james (probably brother) also has no mmn recorded indicating probably that the 2 without mmn were taken from a different village in the district of Dalton.
Also there is no John Isaac baptism on lan-opc whereas all the other children of Edward & Ann are shown (in fact the marriage record of Grace & John shows just the name John - no Isaac, nor is there a death in 1896 for a John Isaac. There are 2 John Gibson's born in Ulverston district in 1838/39
Baptisms: 20 Oct 1839 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England John Gibson - Son of Edward Gibson & Ann Abode: Dalton Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: J. T. Kirkbank Register: Baptisms 1833 - 1848 from Bishop's Transcripts, Page 85, Entry 681 Source: LDS Film 1040304
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Barry
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3 Oct 2011 22:57 |
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ACCORDING to trees On Ancestry Edward's parents were John Isaac Gibson b 1839 Dalton in Furness d 1896 Dalton in Furness and Grace Jemiima Grisedale b 1843 Allithwaite and died 1920 New Philidelphia Tuscarawas Ohio(2 daughters and 2 sons settled in the USA) John Isaac's parents are as stated in the initial posting There is no spouse on the record for Edward b 1869
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lancashireAnn
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3 Oct 2011 22:45 |
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if you know that William james is Edward's brother this certificate will tell you parents names (order via GRO)
Births Dec 1870 (>99%) Gibson William James Ulverston 8e 644
otherwise as it has been proved that the Edward on cumbriabmd.org.ukwith mmn = Grisdale is not the one you want you could order the other Edward's birth certificate through cumbraibmd - just follow the site instructions
Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1868 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference GIBSON Edward Dalton Barrow D/24/224
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3 Oct 2011 22:21 |
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Try the following............
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
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3 Oct 2011 22:16 |
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Not with g/parents in 1881......
Name: Edward Gibson Age: 70 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gibson Gender: Male Where born: Cartmel, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Dalton in Furness County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 18 Skelgate Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Ulverston Sub-registration district: Dalton ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4281 Folio: 113 Page Number: 85 Household Members: Name Age Edward Gibson 70 Ann Gibson 67 Have you looked for the child/ren from 1871 in 1881?
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Flick
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3 Oct 2011 22:14 |
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Do you know if he married?
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Lorraine
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3 Oct 2011 21:46 |
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So sorry for not making it clear. I was hoping for information on Edward Gibson born 1869. I can only find information on him living with his Grandparents Edward born 1811 who was married to Ann. I can't find out who their Grandchild Edwards(1869) parents are.
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MargaretM
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3 Oct 2011 21:43 |
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Didn't know, Flick, I'm in Canada.
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Flick
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3 Oct 2011 21:40 |
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Wigan is a long way from Cartmel/Dalton area.................
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MargaretM
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3 Oct 2011 21:38 |
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Does this mean anything?
BENNETT OR GIBSON, Edward Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 2 Aug 1869 Recorded in: Wigan, Lancashire, England Collection: St Catherine Father: John BENNETT OR GIBSON Mother: Martha Source: FHL Film 1469056 Dates: 1864 - 1869
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Flick
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3 Oct 2011 21:30 |
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Parents of ONE of the children as per above
Marriages Mar 1865 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ainsworth John Ulverstone 8e 733 Gibson John Ulverstone 8e 733 GRISDALE Grace Jemima Ulverston 8e 733 Tyson Maria Ulverstone 8e 733 _______________________________________________
And 1871 census
Name: Grace Gibson Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Gibson Gender: Female Where born: Allethwaite Lanc, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Dalton Ecclesiastical parish: Dalton Town: Dalton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Ulverston Sub-registration district: Dalton ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 272 Piece: 4243 Folio: 33 Page Number: 58 Household Members: Name Age John Gibson 32 Grace Gibson 27 Isaac Gibson 4 John Gibson 11 Months Thomas H Thompson 26 ______________________________________________ Marriage: 14 Jan 1865 Priory Church of St Mary and St Michael, Cartmel, Lancashire, England John Gibson - 25 Labourer Bachelor of Dalton in Furness Grace Jemima Grisdale - 21 Spinster of Allithwaite Groom's Father: Edwin Gibson, Labourer Bride's Father: Isaac Grisdale, Labourer Witness: Joseph Grisdale; Mary Grisdale Married by Banns by: R.C.Hubbersty Register: Marriages 1861 - 1869 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Entry 225 Source: LDS Film 1040300
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MargaretM
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3 Oct 2011 21:30 |
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This might help:
GIBSON, Edward Marriage Wife: Ann POSTLETHWAITE Marriage Date: 24 Nov 1838 Recorded in: Dalton In Furness, Lancashire, England Husband's Father: John GIBSON Wife's Father: John POSTLETHWAITE Source: FHL Film 1471899 Dates: 1824 - 1861
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Flick
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3 Oct 2011 21:25 |
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???????
Births Jun 1868 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GIBSON Edward Ulverstone 8e 758
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1868 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GIBSON Edward Ulverstone 8e 697
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Cumbria Birth indexes for the years: 1868 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference GIBSON Edward Dalton Barrow D/24/224 GIBSON Edward Dalton Barrow GRISDALE D/23/214
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3 Oct 2011 21:18 |
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1871
Name: Edward Gibson Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gibson Gender: Male Where born: Dalton Lanc, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Dalton Ecclesiastical parish: Dalton Town: Dalton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Ulverston Sub-registration district: Dalton ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 271 Piece: 4243 Folio: 33 Page Number: 58 Household Members: Name Age Edward Gibson 60 Ann Gibson 57 Thomas Gibson 20 Ann Gibson 17 Margaret Gibson 14 Edward Gibson 2 born DALTON William J Gibson 6 Months
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3 Oct 2011 21:17 |
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I have a horrible feeling that Lorraine actually wants the names of 1869 child's parents.................although the assumption we initially made was perfectly reasonable, in view of the title of the thread
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3 Oct 2011 21:13 |
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Baptism: 5 Mar 1814 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England Ann Postlethwaite - Dau of John Postlethwaite & Isabella Abode: Newbarns Occupation: Husbandman Baptised by: C.Couperthwaite Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1832 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 12, Entry 91 Source: LDS Film 1040303
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3 Oct 2011 21:11 |
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I'd hoped the record from LancsOPC would help..........unfortunately not
Marriage: 24 Nov 1838 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England Edward Gibson - (X), Bachelor of this Parish Ann Postlethwaite - Spinster of Dalton Witness: Miles Jackson Thexton; Jane Smith Married by Banns by: John Pattenson Register: Marriages 1837 - 1855 from Bishop's Transcripts, Page 19, Entry 37 Source: LDS Film 1040304
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