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Samuel Crowther 1853 or 1856?

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Angela

Angela Report 20 Sep 2011 10:41

Any information would be very helpful in my search, trying to find any information on Samuel Crowther born 1853 or 1856 married Emma Crowther 1868 and/ Mary plummer 1855 in dalham.
Looking for his father/ Samuel's mother was Elizabeth Crowther 1832 from Biggleswade, Bedfordshire, she remarried William Larkinson. But I have no information on his father ???? around 1800's and his parents all I have on that is William Crowther 1801 married Lucy unknown 1804? any information on them would be really helpfull. Thank you for any assistance you can give me. :-D

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Sep 2011 10:50

???????

Marriages Sep 1860 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Crowther Betsy - Biggleswade 3b 553
LARKINSON William - Biggleswade 3b 553

Susan

Susan Report 20 Sep 2011 10:50

England Census
about Samuel Crouther
Name: Samuel Crouther
[Samuel Crowther]
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Biggleswade, Bedfordshire, England

Civil parish: Biggleswade
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Biggleswade
Sub-registration district: Biggleswade
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Piece: 996
Folio: 52
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
William Crouther 61
Lucy Crouther 57
George Crouther 17
Samuel Crouther 8


Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Sep 2011 10:56

Marriages Dec 1872

Crowther Samuel - Biggleswade 3b 915
PLUMMER Mary - Biggleswade 3b 915


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Household: 1881

Samuel CROWTHER Head M Male 29 Bigg, Bedford, England Farm Labour
Mary CROWTHER Wife M Female 28 Dalham, Suffolk, England
Earnest W. CROWTHER Son Male 8 Biggleswade, Bedford, England Scholar
William CROWTHER Son Male 7 Biggleswade, Bedford, England Scholar
Annie CROWTHER Daur Female 5 Biggleswade, Bedford, England Scholar
Margarett CROWTHER Daur Female 2 m Carlton, Nottingham, England
Margarett REYNALD Lodger Female 8 Carlton, Nottingham, England Scholar


Dwelling Carlton Hill
Census Place Carlton, Nottingham, England

Angela

Angela Report 20 Sep 2011 10:57

Thank you, they have spelt the name wrong, that makes more sense now with what I have, thank you for your time and help, any other information on lucy?
:-)

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 20 Sep 2011 10:58

This looks like William and Lucy in the 1851 census:-

CROWTHER, William Head Married M 50 1801 Ag Lab
Biggleswade Bedfordshire
CROWTHER, Lucy Wife Married F 47 1804 Straw Plaiter
Biggleswade Bedfordshire
CROWTHER, Ann Daughter Unmarried F 26 1825 Straw Plaiter Biggleswade Bedfordshire
CROWTHER, Betsy Daughter Unmarried F 17 1834 Straw Plaiter Biggleswade <<<<<(Elizabeth? Samuel's mother perhaps)
CROWTHER, George Son M 7 1844 Scholar Biggleswade
Bedfordshire

Address:
St Andrews Street, Biggleswade


RG number: HO107
Piece: 1753
Folio: 512
Page: 28

It looks to me as if Elizabeth was unmarried when she had Samuel so I don't think you will find out who his father was - unless the father is mentioned on Samuels baptism record.

Kath. x

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Sep 2011 11:00

Who did Samuel name as his father on his marriage certificates ?


Was Elizabeth a widow or spinster on her marriage cert to William Larkinson ?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Sep 2011 11:00

What makes you think that the mother of Samuel is Elizabeth?

1851 England Census
about George Crowther
Name: George Crowther
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Crowther
Mother's Name: Lucy Crowther
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Biggleswade, Bedfordshire, England

Civil parish: Biggleswade
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Biggleswade
Sub-registration district: Potton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 117
Piece: 1753
Folio: 512
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
William Crowther 50
Lucy Crowther 47
Ann Crowther 26
Betsy Crowther 17
George Crowther 7

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 20 Sep 2011 11:03

This looks like William and Lucy's son George's birth (the certificate will give you Lucy's maiden name):-

Name: CROWTHER, George
Registration District: Biggleswade
County: Bedfordshire
Year of Registration: 1844
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 6
Page No: 67

Kath. x

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Sep 2011 11:04

Isn't this his birth ceetificate ?
You seemed unsure of his year of birth --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Births Jun 1853
Crowther Samuel - Biggleswade 3b 334

Mary

Mary Report 20 Sep 2011 11:04

tree on Ancestry has william crowther 1804 - 1885 married to Lucy Falkner 1804 - 1886.
Married 19/1/1825 Southill.

Maryb

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Sep 2011 11:11

Betsy Crowther appears to be William and Lucy's daughter.

Therefore don't understand your statement about her RE-marrying William Larkinson.


If Samuel was born to unmarried Betsy then there won't be a father's name on the birth certificate

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Sep 2011 11:13

The image is poor and difficult to read........but this looks to be the family in1841.

1841 England Census
about Wilm Crowther
Name: Wilm Crowther
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Bedfordshire, England

Civil parish: Biggleswade
Hundred: Biggleswade
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Biggleswade
Sub-registration district: Biggleswade
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2
Book: 3
Folio: 10
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Wilm Crowther 35
Luree Crowther 30
Ann Crowther 15
Elizabeth Crowther 7
Sarrah Georg 8

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 20 Sep 2011 11:13

This looks like Samuel's christening record from the IGI:-

SAMUEL CROWTHER
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
07 MAY 1854 Biggleswade, Bedford, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Mother: ELIZABETH CROWTHER

The record is extracted from parish records so should be correct.

Kath. x

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Sep 2011 11:16

As suspected .... no father.
There wasn't a Mr Crowther.
Elizabeth was single.

Angela

Angela Report 20 Sep 2011 11:18

Hi ,T
The only information I have has been from other distant family members on GR, I was unsure of Samuel's date of birth as two GR members have two different dates for him but the same inforamtion about his siblings, I am very new to looking up information, hence why I put it up on here, have no certificates us was unsure where to get them from???I am from NZ and am new to where to look up the information needed in England,

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 20 Sep 2011 11:21

Exactly Mike, although Samuel may have given a name for his father on his marriage certificate (either a made up name to save face or his step-father's name). Only buying the certificate will give Angela the answer to that.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 20 Sep 2011 11:23

You can buy certificates online from the General Register Office at this address:-

www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

Best place to look up births, marriages and deaths from this period is FreeBMD.

Kath. x

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Sep 2011 11:23

Best place for records after 1837 is freebmd

....................http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

To obtain certificates using the reference numbers found on freebmd you can apply online to the GRO

...................http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Hope this helps.

Angela

Angela Report 20 Sep 2011 11:34

Thank you so much for your help, cheers Ang. :-)